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| NewYorkGuy |
03-20-2016 05:39 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by CompClassics
(Post 1385116)
Actually,
It is not as you state above, being in the industry for many years a manufacturer does not necessarily do their own designing, engineering or manufacturing of their own vehicles or parts all of the time. Many manufacturers today utilize other companies to do these things. When Chevrolet was designing their C5 Corvette they turned to Porsche to design the torque tube and transaxle systems. When Porsche first opened his business doors it was as a engineering firm. many automotive manufacturing companies (Ford, Chevrolet, Porsche , Audi, etc) have other automotive manufacturing companies supply a base vehicle where the company then produces its own exterior and some drivetrain components and then they call it their own brand, the VW Tourag was a perfect example, it provided a base vehicle to Porsche and Audi for their respective SUV market. Porsche even utilized the VW VR6 engine in its base model Cayenne. This has been going on since the beginning of the automobile with chassis manufacturers supply chassis to coach builders to complete and call their own. This practice has taken place with normal production run vehicles all the way up to high end limited production specials.
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Psst, it is 2016.
Everyone s moved on except for Cobras cars and their specialized mom&pop shops. Cobra $$$$ keeps your business afloat. Keep on spreading the Cobra gospel. . Contact Dario F. He did not a problem ponying $228K for Csx4206. Dario liked the stories |
| RodKnock |
03-20-2016 05:49 PM |
[quote=CompClassics;1385097]I believe that Evan believed that his Cobra was as original as the 1960s Cobras, it is./QUOTE]
ComClassics did say "as original" not "an original." I misread that statement. My apologies.
But originals didn't have a Kirkham bodies. :)
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| Joe's Garage |
03-20-2016 05:58 PM |
Too bad he also said "it is", we all know it ain't :)
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| SFSDFGT |
03-20-2016 06:11 PM |
It is abundantly clear that some of you are determined to have the last word in this thread. However, just remember that Evan had the last laugh.
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| LightNFast |
03-20-2016 06:48 PM |
Keep in mind some originals don't even have an original body or frame. It's still an original though and in some cases worth millions. There are replicas out there that only an expert can discern. I actually don't know, but it sounds like Evan's old car could be one of them and perhaps that was the point CompClassics was trying to make.
Food for thought -
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| jhv48 |
03-20-2016 07:11 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFSDFGT
(Post 1385140)
It is abundantly clear that some of you are determined to have the last word in this thread. However, just remember that Evan had the last laugh.
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He who laughs last is the slowest thinker!
He is now the Porsche Owner's Club's problem. And I don't think they will be as tolerant as we were. |
| Blue66 |
03-20-2016 07:23 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFSDFGT
(Post 1385140)
It is abundantly clear that some of you are determined to have the last word in this thread. However, just remember that Evan had the last laugh.
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yes he did !!!! :LOL: |
| Dimis |
03-20-2016 08:08 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
(Post 1385146)
He is now the Porsche Owner's Club's problem. And I don't think they will be as tolerant as we were.
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Haha, He bought a Porsche RS?
An Original RS or just a REAL1? :LOL:
The circle of life continues....
I'm glad to have met Even via this forum. He was fun, as long as you didn't take him (or yourself) too seriously. I wish him all the very best. |
| RodKnock |
03-20-2016 08:28 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
(Post 1385150)
Haha, He bought a Porsche RS?
An Original RS or just a REAL1? :LOL:
The circle of life continues....
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The original air cooled '73 2.7 RS is the only REAL genuine authentic RS. Today's Porsches are water-cooled and made by VW/Audi. :) |
| peterpjb |
03-20-2016 09:52 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1385151)
The original air cooled '73 2.7 RS is the only REAL genuine authentic RS. Today's Porsches are water-cooled and made by VW/Audi. :)
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porsche and vw were together since the beginning, even in 1973 ;) |
| RodKnock |
03-20-2016 10:40 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
(Post 1385157)
porsche and vw were together since the beginning, even in 1973 ;)
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Depends on how you define "together." But you know what I meant. Someone just likes to argue. Porsche's are mass produced automobiles today and some would argue no longer really Porsches, because "together" changed. ;) |
| peterpjb |
03-21-2016 12:18 AM |
i have had them all, my current 991s is as genuine and sharp as my first 911sc :)
and btw the first 356 were some slightly tuned beetles, nothing else, nowadays vws and porsches dont have anything in common
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| Dimis |
03-21-2016 02:57 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
(Post 1385169)
i have had them all, my current 991s is as genuine and sharp as my first 911sc :)
and btw the first 356 were some slightly tuned beetles, nothing else, nowadays vws and porsches dont have anything in common
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Well, that's debatable!
They do use common parts - like the same anti-emissions-by-pass-technology. :LOL:
Enjoy.
Volkswagen emissions scandal widens to include Porsche and Audi, regulators say - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
All in good fun, but where there's smoke there's fire. :p
The way corporates run thief business, it just goes to show that government is merely "middle management" ;) |
| trularin |
03-21-2016 08:25 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1385151)
The original air cooled '73 2.7 RS is the only REAL genuine authentic RS. Today's Porsches are water-cooled and made by VW/Audi. :)
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Perhaps there is no notification of REAL status as it relates to a Porsche?
I mean, I can see him getting any 73 and then running around saying, "Look! It is real!"
What a wonderful concept "reality" is.
Hmmmm....
Tru |
| RodKnock |
03-21-2016 10:41 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
(Post 1385169)
i have had them all, my current 991s is as genuine and sharp as my first 911sc :)
and btw the first 356 were some slightly tuned beetles, nothing else, nowadays vws and porsches dont have anything in common
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Totally disagree. After 1998 (993), the last air-cooled Porsche, they're not REAL Porsches any more IMO. They went from hand-made to mass-produced with the introduction of the 996. And today's 991 is the Titanic in comparison to the older models and the traditional 911 shape lost.
The 991 is a great car, but VW/Audi/Porsche combo lost its direction/way in terms of the 911. Today's Porsche has '14 GT3 engine fires, recalls for emissions defeating software, getting rid of manual transmissions (but now bring it back in the next gen GT3), etc.
Nah, I'll just continue to enjoy my REAL air-cooled Porsche. :p |
| Tim7139 |
03-21-2016 10:53 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
(Post 1385119)
Well, where do we start with this sh#t?
Might want to check some chassis builders like Pinnanfarina for Ferrari and many others. Then maybe check Audi using Lamborghini engines in their cars.
The list goes on...
Point is that everyone out-sources what they need to build a car. Still happening today.
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Actually, it's the other way around. It's the primary I bought an Gallardo back in '08. Italian styling....German electrics, running gear, powertrain. What you'd call a perfect combination. |
| 1ntCobra |
03-21-2016 10:59 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue66
(Post 1385033)
Good for him !!!! :D If somebody missed Evans car here is a deal on a bare alum Kirkham .. WOW.. are prices goin down or are guys just bailing :confused:
Other Makes | eBay
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I guess I could get used to the dual roll bars, but those black wheels are the deal breaker for me. |
| Tim7139 |
03-21-2016 11:05 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1385202)
Totally disagree. After 1998 (993), the last air-cooled Porsche, they're not REAL Porsches any more IMO. They went from hand-made to mass-produced with the introduction of the 996. And today's 991 is the Titanic in comparison to the older models and the traditional 911 shape lost.
The 991 is a great car, but VW/Audi/Porsche combo lost its direction/way in terms of the 911. Today's Porsche has '14 GT3 engine fires, recalls for emissions defeating software, getting rid of manual transmissions (but now bring it back in the next gen GT3), etc.
Nah, I'll just continue to enjoy my REAL air-cooled Porsche. :p
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That's why I hung on for years owning both ends of the spectrum until recently......'62 356 roadster & '97 [993] C4S. |
| RodKnock |
03-21-2016 11:15 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
(Post 1385205)
I guess I could get used to the dual roll bars, but those black wheels are the deal breaker for me.
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I'm the other way around, the two roll bars don't look right to me. Wheels can be changed easily and I think you get an extra set too with this car.
At $135,000, I don't find the price too high or too low. Seems reasonable to me, especially considering two CSX4000's (not Evan's) were sold for $150,000-ish. |
| Blue66 |
03-21-2016 11:16 AM |
Listen ..... I think I hear someone laughing an counting $$$$ .. Never say never guys :p
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