rumor control--has SAAC lost its use of Shelby name?

[John McMahon]

...this all gets very confusing.

I remember hearing rumours a year or two ago, that the upper management at SAAC was going to sell it off and step down.

Not sure if that ever occurred, but in the interim, last year, didn't SAAC and the SVTOA group merge? SAAC, as I understand it, was in the process of growing, yet again, as an automotive entity.

Future Plans - I know for a fact that SVTOA was all set to run the track portion of the 2008 SAAC convention in NJ, but am not sure what this meant in regards to changes to all conventions moving forward, whether it meant, SAAC would now honor both Shelby and SVT autos (??).

That being said, what does this mean to the future of both these clubs?

[computerworks]

John... Ford cut the SVTOA loose last year and they then 'affiliated' with SAAC, since they were laying claim to the new GT500.

SAAC-32 (Utah) was a joint convention with SAAC and SVTOA... SAAC F-S-S and SVTOA S-S-M....two separate banquets.

It met with, shall we say, mixed reviews.

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by computerworks

John... Ford cut the SVTOA loose last year and they then 'affiliated' with SAAC, since they were laying claim to the new GT500.

SAAC-32 (Utah) was a joint convention with SAAC and SVTOA... SAAC F-S-S and SVTOA S-S-M....two separate banquets.

It met with, shall we say, mixed reviews.

Oy Vey...thanks Ron. This is like marrying yer sister.

They do that in Utah, don't they?

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by John McMahon

Oy Vey...thanks Ron. This is like marrying yer sister.

They do that in Utah, don't they?

I think you mean West Virginia.

[David Kirkham]

Originally Posted by John McMahon

Oy Vey...thanks Ron. This is like marrying yer sister.

They do that in Utah, don't they?

You related to John McCain's mom?

David

[Rick Parker]

Only if she looks pretty good!....................

[What'saCobra?]

Sorry, i thought that was your sister.

Apologies.

[TerrysSPF]

Wow.........has this thread taken a turn for the worse. Everybody, just stay away from your sisters already, no matter what state you're in!

I just picked up the new SHELBY magazine and read thru it cover to cover. Nice mag, a lot of history explained (with a Shelby slant), a couple other interesting articles, and lots of good pics (old AND new). IMO however, this new "Team Shelby" club was definately put together with the "new" cars (aka GT500, Shelby GT, GT-H, etc) as their top priority of interest. In fact, they (CS and AMY) basically come right out and say that in different interviews, including quotes in the article titled: "Join The Club". As I eluded to in my previous post, I thought the folks at Shelby would be too busy to keep track of the cars as SAAC was able to do. Amy was quoted in the article as saying "....we know how to leverage the strengths of others to create a winning team." "...we didn't want to form and operate a club on our own, so we looked for a partner who was a true enthusiast and capable of creating an organization that would give all it's members real value." -Why wasn't this "partner" SAAC? If they weren't willing to ad the "new" Shelby cars into the club then why not co-exhist? Instead, they "found that partner in the S197 Shelby Owners Association". "This organization evolved into Team Shelby, the ONLY official Shelby Automobiles-recognized club for '05 and newer Shelby based Mustangs"................oh, and by the way, "every other car that Shelby built" is also included. ie: like COBRAS.

........."Every other car that Shelby built"? -Sounds like the cars included in SAAC are merely afterthoughts for this Club. -Too bad for you old guys, I guess! ;-)
-Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. In fact, I completely understand what they are trying to do, and why. But it doesn't change the fact that I can see a lot of people being very disappointed that Team Shelby couldn't find a way to co-exhist with SAAC. -A club that's been helping to keep the Shelby name alive for 30 years........and doing it WELL.

[kayakjack]

Originally Posted by TerrysSPF

I just picked up the new SHELBY magazine and read thru it cover to cover. Nice mag, a lot of history explained (with a Shelby slant), a couple other interesting articles, and lots of good pics (old AND new).

I would like to read the magazine. Is it available in newsshops? Where can I get it?

Jack

[isaakgt]

Originally Posted by kayakjack

I would like to read the magazine. Is it available in newsshops? Where can I get it?

Jack

Got mine at my local SaveMart grocery store. Enjoyed the read.

[Jamo]

Actually, I thought the recent discussion elevated it a bit.

[What'saCobra?]

Agreed.

And the discussions also clearly indicated that both need to point towards each other more properly. SAAC's leadership needs to be convinced again that they must either get full in or full outish. It is NOT a service to their membership to be at odds with the Man.

Owners (most, anyway) still regard CS as very important to their pride of ownership, particularly at special events to which they pay big money to attend and also spend beaucoup travel time as well as trailer shipping. The man demands and deserves respect. (Did i just say that? i must be getting old and more mellow.)

But, someone (she will remain nameless for the moment) will need to get him to see the VERY LARGE potentials of a proper amalgam of these entities and principals. They have gotten over lots in the past, so it isn't impossible.

Money, however, will need to be spent by the Shelby/FORD/etc side to glue them together (the entities) and perhaps a principal or two might wish to retire from the situation (if they are too bent, proud, terminally angry or not willing (for any reason) to push this stone up the hill with sufficient speed).

For instance, updating of the Registry, despite many unanswered questions about various entry criteria for "lines of business" (read: kinds of Cobras and "Cobras" and "Shelbys"), needs more tempo. A single entity would facilitate those decisions on schedule, by professionals, if not quite perfectly.

[Madmiles442]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Actually, I thought the recent discussion elevated it a bit.

QUITE a bit. Before this, when was the last time SAAC was mentioned in ANY circle. ZZZzzzzzzz

Originally Posted by What'saCobra?

.........Money, however, will need to be spent by the Shelby/FORD/etc side to glue them together... and perhaps a principal or two might wish to retire from the situation... to push this stone up the hill with sufficient speed.

For instance, updating of the Registry, despite many unanswered questions about various entry criteria for "lines of business" (read: kinds of Cobras and "Cobras" and "Shelbys"), needs more tempo. A single entity would facilitate those decisions on schedule, by professionals, if not quite perfectly.

AMEN, BROTHER. That's the ticket, right there.
So much potential that SAAC has shown no interest in advancing.

[Jamo]

MadMiles442...you took my post out of context. It was in response to the previous post.

My point was that a discussion about the mating patterns of the southeastern United States elevated this whole discussion.

[Madmiles442]

Originally Posted by Jamo

MadMiles442...you took my post out of context. It was in response to the previous post.

My point was that a discussion about the mating patterns of the southeastern United States elevated this whole discussion.

Gotcha. Sorry 'bout that. You know, I tend to agree more now.

Whoever (many pages ago) set the over/under at 22 pages was pretty smart. Of course, I took the over with the head of steam we had back then. Not sure it'll make it to 22. Really slowing down.

[TerrysSPF]

I just picked mine up at the local supermarket newstand. I'm sure they would have them at bookstores like Barnes & Noble or Waldens as well.

While the SAAC doesn't get mentioned here a lot, I'm sure there are plenty of members among us. I think they aren't brought up in conversation much simply because there isn't a lot to talk about - except perhaps the length of time between updates.

Sure there's bad blood between them, and I don't know the details, but couldn't that be worked out for the "team"? Sounds like CS just decided to take his marbles and go home. But then again...........it's HIS name and HIS product, so.........

I understand what Amy is doing in wanting to take Shelby forward, and this club will be a part of that by including the new Mustangs (and MUSTANGS in their mind, ARE the future). After all, Ford sells a lot more Mustangs than Shelby sells Cobra's...............but I still feel the SAAC could have played an important role here.

It will be interesting to see what the first couple of club gatherings will turn out like, and what the ratio will be between the "new" Shelby crowd (in their 'Stangs) and the "old" group in their Cobra's (especially originals).

Now..................back to your sisters.

[Jamo]

Maybe they won't let the old POS things be in the pic.

[TerrysSPF]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Maybe they won't let the old POS things be in the pic.

Yep, I can hear the young crowd in their 'Stangs all standing around as the Cobra's pull up, yelling................"Hey! Who let the old Corvette guys in here!!!!"

[Don]

Shelby magazine:

I was provided the UPC by Jay Little as Barnes & Noble did not have any on display. B & N at two different stores did not show stocking the magazine. I advised Amy and she is checking with the Publlsher regarding B & N distribution.

I did find a copy at Border's, don't know if it was the only or last, but at this store they did not have any remaining.

Thought the magazine was well done, especially since I am not as conversant as others in the history and offerings of CSI. Suggested to Amy there is a spread sheet format having pertient datra with all the offerings, past and present, possibly as a pull out. Amy indicated the suggestion would be considered for future publications and on the web site.

[amy B]

Originally Posted by Don

Shelby magazine:

I was provided the UPC by Jay Little as Barnes & Noble did not have any on display. B & N at two different stores did not show stocking the magazine. I advised Amy and she is checking with the Publlsher regarding B & N distribution.

I did find a copy at Border's, don't know if it was the only or last, but at this store they did not have any remaining.

Thought the magazine was well done, especially since I am not as conversant as others in the history and offerings of CSI. Suggested to Amy there is a spread sheet format having pertient datra with all the offerings, past and present, possibly as a pull out. Amy indicated the suggestion would be considered for future publications and on the web site.

Thanks Don, we llike the idea alot and will be doing it online as well as print.

On the magazine, this is our first so we wanted to catch everyone up on who is here and what has happened and what we are doing, It certainly talks about cobra and it has Carroll's history and the Terlingua History as well.

The Newsletters and other publications we do will be more rounded. This book was also to tell the regular population who think Carroll was out of business that we are back in a big way. You would be surprised how many people thought we went out of business 2 years ago


Amy