rumor control--has SAAC lost its use of Shelby name?

[Excaliber]

It is sad that Shelby didn't find a way to incorporate SAAC into this new game plan in some way. They've been snubbed, for whatever reason. I'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy over this deal. Recognizing business decisions need to be made, looking to the future, perhaps better in the long run and all that, change is never easy. It does leave me feeling rather empty at the present time...

[amy B]

Guys, I posted this on the other forum as well, I hope it helps, If not I am sorry. I don't understand why threads always degrade into snide remarks, nasty comments, why can't it just be discussions?

The new club although it doesn't look like it yet, as it officially launches on Carroll's birthday will have a full vintage section. We want input and we don't profess to have all the answers either. I hope to build it to where it is what it needs to be for all.

so, Here is the only "why" I can give you, the why will come from Carroll directly as well this week. I didn't think the why was important because I don't do "he said /she said"

I explained to him tonight some of the backlash and he will make a statement. He has felt for along time that he is not part of SAAC he has told me he talked to Ken and Rick and had given input to events and other things over the years and he felt ignored. These are his words to me, not mine, please do not accuse me of anything other then what I am posting.. He said that he as Shelby wants a site that has instant information for all users and owners, a site where he can exchange info with the members, a site that he can ask for feedback immediately and have a dialog. Again his original idea. I told him about the club and shows I did before, we discussed building this club when the company was better able to handle it. That time is now.

I have also tried to talk to Ken 2 years ago at saac, about the relationship with Carroll and SAAC and Ken was adament in his anger at Carroll. This seems personal to both and maybe rightfully so for both. I warned him and rick at the dinner back then that this would reach a head. Nothing ever happened between the 3 to change the outcome.

I don't presume to know how to make it all happen, but I do know that the strength of SAAC is in it's members not just in its club owners. That is what we are trying to do. We have heard good and we have heard bad, Carroll specifically wanted to run his club where his thoughts mattered. I am not judging anyone, I think the registry for it's information is amazing, but maybe there is more needed.

Again, my appologies if I sounded arrogant, it was not my intent, this is a big under taking, it is a huge responsibility,its's a huge expense, believe me I really want this to succeed. I was trying to be careful, I was trying to be politically correct, maybe that was wrong.


Amy

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by wcampbell

See I told you. The GLHs will be parked next to the R-Models and FIA COBRAs for all to see. Gee - if you're one of those GLH owners I think the value of your car just went up 10K. On the other hand, if you own the R-Model you might feel kind like you just kissed your sister...

Which is why after I've been to one saac, there is no point in going to another. There is an elitest type of flavor to the club, from some of the members. I would not spend my time or money to bring my 4000 car there, most people there are not intereseted in seeing replica's, which is fine, as I didn't go there to look at replica's. The track time is also very expensive and limited for replica's.

Basically, been there, done that.

Originally Posted by Excaliber

It is sad that Shelby didn't find a way to incorporate SAAC into this new game plan in some way. They've been snubbed, for whatever reason. .

Maybe it's because SAAC is a business, not a non-profit organization, of which I don;t think many are aware of the financial benefits to the owners, who may want to keep it that way, and maybe it's basically a business decision between all parties concerned.

Originally Posted by amy B

Carroll --- has felt for along time that he is not part of SAAC he has told me he talked to Ken and Rick and had given input to events and other things over the years and he felt ignored.

I have also tried to talk to Ken 2 years ago at saac, about the relationship with Carroll and SAAC and Ken was adament in his anger at Carroll. This seems personal to both and maybe rightfully so for both. I warned him and rick at the dinner back then that this would reach a head. Nothing ever happened between the 3 to change the outcome.
Amy

obviously, there are some strong feelings about issues that we may never know that are having a decisive role in business decision making.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

It is sad that Shelby didn't find a way to incorporate SAAC into this new game plan in some way. They've been snubbed, for whatever reason.

Heres your reason
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