Continuation CSX a "Kit car"?

[CSX 4039]

Originally Posted by A-Snake

Please enlighten us. You're saying an original '64 Cobra or an original '63 Corvette Grand Sport is treated the same as a component car produced in 2008?

Here, you can get plates that say "Historic Vehicle". Same for both cars. That way, no smog requirement....

[Chaplin]

Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Not only is this statement true, but the states also take your precious CSX VIN number (as well as ERA, FFR, SPF, CCX, etc.), and replace it with their own generic VIN number. Alas, all of our cars are kit cars, component cars, or composite cars, regardless what you may tell yourself.

Actually, the VIN that NJ gave me is the same as that issued by ERA, only 6 characters. "ERA" and the 3 digit car number.

[RodKnock]

Boy, this thread has sure gone sideways.

[RodKnock]

Yep, that one confused me too. My Corvette is classified as a car, which is a broad category, but it also states that the Maker is Chevrolet, Model is Corvette and Body Type is convertible. How does this relate back to SPCNS for a Cobra at least here in CA.

[CSX 4039]

I was saying a Corvair and 'Vette are way different cars, but, both are titled as "Historic Vehicles"- a big grouping that covers every car from the sublime to the ridiculous. Just as "Kit Car" can cover every thing from the sublime to the ridiculous. In other words, using a government grouping to try to describe a car isn't very revealing of what the car is. There are better, more accurate ways to define your ride.

[BigGuy]

You really need to check with your state... I still have my CSX# as my VIN here in Ohio, not a new VIN as someone has stated (that they are replaced with one from the state)

My car had to be inspected by a dealer (just like transferring an out of state title into an Ohio title).

My title is for a 1965 Shelby Continuation S/C Cobra per DMV. (No, it does not say real or original!)

No problem.....

As someone once said "Drive it like you stole it!"

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[Excaliber]

My 1984 ERA will be 25 next year and it looks like I'll be in Texas when that happens. Guess I'll look into getting 'historic plates' for it!

[CobraDan]

Unique Motorcars is a family owned business, operated by Alan and Maurice Weaver (brothers) and their Mother, Jean Weaver. The Weaver family's experience with Kit Cars began in Phoenix, Arizona in 1976. At that time we were operating as Antique Car Restoration Center. Our primary business was the complete restoration of classic and special interest automobiles. Most of the cars being restored were owned by collectors and museums. We were the exclusive restoration company for the Grand Old Cars Museum in Scottsdale, Arizona. Grand Old Cars Museum was the world's largest collection of convertible automobiles under one roof. We also restored numerous Mustang convertibles for A & G Classic Cars. We continued to restore cars until 1979.

We assembled Intermeccanica Porsche Speedster Replicas and Auburn Boat tail Speedsters until we purchased Unique Motorcars in 1979. This is when we started to manufacture Cobra* Replicas.

[Excaliber]

Well said Sal, well said indeed!

[Bill Kesner]

So very true Sal.......

And thanks for clearing up the roller issue I read earlier. Bought mine in 1999, which was built as a roller by SAI, and went next door to Finish Line. You could purchase your car back then in complete component parts and assemble yourself, though not too many went this route.

- Bill -

[jmimac351]

Sal, I've seen your car and it's one of the nicest I've seen. Although it is interesting that you assumed I was talking about you. Sometimes the image that's projected and the one perceived are two different things. I think that may explain why sometimes some people catch grief.

[REAL 1]

Sal: Bingo!!!

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

Sal, I've seen your car and it's one of the nicest I've seen. Although it is interesting that you assumed I was talking about you. Sometimes the image that's projected and the one perceived are two different things. I think that may explain why sometimes some people catch grief.

The only reason I made that assumption, was because you mentioned the "no fake" (my license plate) thing. If you hadn't posted that, I would have not thought you were talking about me.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

The only reason I made that assumption, was because you mentioned the "no fake" (my license plate) thing. If you hadn't posted that, I would have not thought you were talking about me.

I didn't realize yours had that. I saw it on another car. I saw your car at an HSR race at Daytona and thought it was the nicest one there. I'd be proud of it too. My only point is little things like that can give off a certain vibe that you may not mean to convey. Not that you're responsible for other's feelings as I'm not shy about candor. It's just food for thought whether it matters or not.

Nice car man.

[mrmustang]

So after 300 posts (this being the 300th) and over 8,000 hits to this thread can we all agree to the following:


CSX4000(6000,7000 etc) series cars are indeed real Shelby products
CSX4000(6000,7000 etc) series cars are not original (as built before 1968) Cobra's but continuations of the original 1960's built Cobras



Bill S.

[Stentor]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

So after 300 posts (this being the 300th) and over 8,000 hits to this thread can we all agree to the following:


CSX4000(6000,7000 etc) series cars are indeed real Shelby products
CSX4000(6000,7000 etc) series cars are not original (as built before 1968) Cobra's but continuations of the original 1960's built Cobras



Bill S.

Bingo...we've got a winner here!

[mrmustang]

Can we agree with the following statement?

"Today's CSX 4000 Series 427 S/C component vehicles from Shelby Automobiles, Inc. are everything the 1965 models were and more. The authenticity of each vehicle is documented by Shelby CSX numbers and a manufacturer's Statement of Origin (MSO) from Shelby American signed by Carroll Shelby himself. Improvements include a stronger steel frame and better alloys used in the components, plus better cooling and additional heat shielding to make these cars safer and more drivable without losing any of their original character."


Bill S.

[fostereast]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Can we agree with the following statement?

"Today's CSX 4000 Series 427 S/C component vehicles from Shelby Automobiles, Inc. are everything the 1965 models were and more. The authenticity of each vehicle is documented by Shelby CSX numbers and a manufacturer's Statement of Origin (MSO) from Shelby American signed by Carroll Shelby himself. Improvements include a stronger steel frame and better alloys used in the components, plus better cooling and additional heat shielding to make these cars safer and more drivable without losing any of their original character."


Bill S.

This definition works for the kit car crowd (A little to much snake-oil for me though) For the uninformed car show visitor, try something a little simpler like. "It's a replica of the 1960's Cobra. This one happens to be made by a company CS owns. Surprisingly enough CS found that replicas of the original Cobra are much more popular than he ever imagined, and with his background and connection to the industry, it seemed a natural for him to get re-involved in the Cobra legend. So here you have it, a very authentically made replica made by none other than CS himself."

One of the side effects of this statement is that the person you just talked to will go away happy they stopped by.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by fostereast

This definition works for the kit car crowd (A little to much snake-oil for me though) For the uninformed car show visitor, try something a little simpler like. "It's a replica of the 1960's Cobra. This one happens to be made by a company CS owns. Surprisingly enough CS found that replicas of the original Cobra are much more popular than he ever imagined, and with his background and connection to the industry, it seemed a natural for him to get re-involved in the Cobra legend. So here you have it, a very authentically made replica made by none other than CS himself."

One of the side effects of this statement is that the person you just talked to will go away happy they stopped by.

Sorry, a little too much reverse snake-oil for me.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Can we agree with the following statement?

"Today's CSX 4000 Series 427 S/C component vehicles from Shelby Automobiles,Inc. are everything the 1965 models were and more."
Bill S.

Bill,

The key is "Today's". They are not 1965 Cobras. The description that is given to the uninformed crowd is sometimes missing that element.