What is the best FORD engine per dollar

[Doug I]

carb wouldn't run more than, what, $400 ? So that doesn't even break $14/hp. Pretty damn impressive !! And it gives you over 500 pones at wheels - even better !! And a warranty as well - even better.

Dave is pretty good on grass too !!!
He should give the hamster some lessons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2e8vlRWwvg and part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo8TYapTOsA

[olddog]

Pretty open question and many didn't even stick with Ford.

It's been a while but the last Model A Ford dad rebuilt was only about $500. With the high compression Ford racing head on it, I think it was around 50 hp, which gets close to the $10/hp mark.

Then there are a half dozen flat head V8, the Y block, and various other inline 4s and 6s, along with some v6s, that were not considered.

If we are talking 400 - 600 hp range that someone would be willing to put in a Cobra, for the price of decent heads and a cam, a 460 would go well over the 400 hp mark. Its an easy engine to work on. A person could pull one out of junk yard and get there for about $3500 or so. That would be hard to beat.

2nd thought:
You could get over the 400 hp mark with a 351 W the same way and maybe less cost. However, on the 460 you could use factory heads. Port match intake and exhaust ports to the gaskets and clean up the rest of the ports a bit, while your at it. I think you could easily get over 400 hp for less than $2K.

[DR 385]

The Dr is IN,

This is an old post, but I feel it bears reexamination, as it is obviously been contaminated by some "FE"-TARDED members.

It is dangerous when those who suffer from "FE"-TARDATION feel they need to comment on this subject. It is as if they did not even read the title of the post?
Ok, I'm sorry, I need to be more sensitive, Not so abrupt, it is a serious disability that needs to be identified and properly treated.
So let's read it together, obviously the pressure in your tiny skulls has made it difficult to sound out the big words.

Ok slowly now..."What is the best FORD engine per dollar?"

I should have seen this coming, when ever a "FE"-TARD sees "best" and "FORD" they can help but blurt out FE!!!!

"FE"-TARDISM, much like Tourette syndrome, causes the afflicted to randomly exclaim offensive words and obviously false statements in socially and morally inappropriate settings.
Typically, you will hear things like "FE's are the best!!" or "FE's are the most efficient, least expensive, most reliable engines ever created!"

While I am confident that my previously suggested treatment for the more serious "FE-TITUS", will yield positive results for the group, I have devised less invasive than program.
I believe that if the oxygen level in the blood of the afflicted is reduced significantly (98-100% should be sufficient) for a period of 30-40 min, the symptoms should subside. This procedure can be applied manually by a second party or self applied by means of a rope and simple slip type knot.
Another advantage to this treatment type, is that it may be started IMMDIATELY, as rope does not require a waiting period...

As a group, we need be vigilant in our efforts to keep these diseases from spreading to those whose automotive immune systems aren't completely developed, and are susceptible to infection.

The Dr has spoken.....

[Great Asp]

Originally Posted by DR 385

The Dr is IN,

This is an old post, blaa blaa blaa

Dude, do you even own a Cobra? If you do, you have not decided to grace us with the details.

Instead, you insult long time members and posters, dig up 5 month old threads just so you can get the last word in.

This is "clubcobra". The best engine for the dollar in "A COBRA" is an FE, sorry ..."doc". Great performance, no shame when you pop the hood, and great resale value if needed. You might notice that some of the best replicas with a flair to the originals almost always have FE's (or very nice 289 style small blocks).

If you want to race, get a small block for your cobra, great choice!




How do you get internet service under a bridge?

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[Silverback51]

Gee, I'm never ashamed to open my hood with a 460 under it.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Great Asp

You might notice that some of the best replicas with a flair to the originals almost always have FE's (or very nice 289 style small blocks).

But the real truth is that the only people that are impressed with an FE under a Cobra's hood are other Cobra owners (or fans of old Ford engines, who are really few and far between).

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

But the real truth is that the only people that are impressed with an FE under a Cobra's hood are other Cobra owners (or fans of old Ford engines, who are really few and far between).

That's not always true of course. During my short ownership so far, I've had several people ask me if it was a REAL 427 versus a Windsor-ized 427, and those people weren't really Cobra/Ford types.

[Got the Bug]

OK...uh...well...thanks for stopping by then?

I guess we've officially hit "the dog days of summer."

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

OK...uh...well...thanks for stopping by then?

I guess we've officially hit "the dog days of summer."

I just want to know if he or she is a medical doctor or one of those Phd people who think they're doctors, and add the Dr. before their name. Like the PE teacher who calls himself or herself Dr. Jones or Dr. Smith....Phd of PE.

[KevinW]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I just want to know if he or she is a medical doctor or one of those Phd people who think they're doctors, and add the Dr. before their name. Like the PE teacher who calls himself or herself Dr. Jones or Dr. Smith....Phd of PE.

er, just to be pedantic, as you;ve knocked my trade.....

'Dr' is the correct title for the holder of a PhD: Doctor of Philosophy

The medical title is honourary for those starting out in clinical practice with just a couple of undergraduate degrees.

However, holders of an MD are also fully entitled to use said prefix.

Recent history has muddled these things up.

Dr Wells has spoken. I thank you.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by KevinW

er, just to be pedantic, as you;ve knocked my trade.....

'Dr' is the correct title for the holder of a PhD: Doctor of Philosophy

The medical title is honourary for those starting out in clinical practice with just a couple of undergraduate degrees.

However, holders of an MD are also fully entitled to use said prefix.

Recent history has muddled these things up.

Dr Wells has spoken. I thank you.

Yes, but you're English. The accent would make a difference, actually elevating the person in our cast society, even if your doctorate was in the subject of Physical Education.

No malice intended. Just trying to make fun of "hit and run" by DR385.

[KevinW]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yes, but you're English. The accent would make a difference, actually elevating the person in our cast society, even if your doctorate was in the subject of Physical Education.

No malice intended. Just trying to make fun of "hit and run" by DR385.

By george, none taken or intended old chap! jolly spiffing, what what

Dr385: Im working it all out with a pencil........ yes, guilty as charged.
Do you know the way to Santa FE? humm it if you can.....

[Turbonut48]

I vote for a 351 W. Mild cam, good intake and freeflow exhaust will give LOTS of torque.
Torque is what moves ya on the street.

The Nut

[Excaliber]

Master Mongoose7 speaks truth.

Grasshopper, you must have balance.

The experience with my ERA tell's me it's extremely difficult to hook up much over 500 horse, I don't care what it cost you!

I was running the Goodyear Bill boards, a reasonably good traction tire that works well on the street or the track. My soild roller cam high compression side oiler was making over 600 horse, turned 11.90 ET on the drag strip. Was HELL to drive on the street. Rebuilt, reduced compression, smaller cam, smaller carbs, street friendly, run's on pump gas, DOUBLED the mpg. I estimate, actually Gessford Machine's George Anderson estimated, I gave up about a 150 horse power. Back to the track: 11.99 and a loss of about 3 mph trap speed. I was blown away! Unless you plan on running slicks and are seriously into the drag strip there is little point in going beyond 500 horse.

I'll take a Windsor based motor myself for a REASONABLE budget. I think the over all package (weight, size, potential mpg) is superior to a 385 series motor. Having the money, I'd go for a "de-tuned" SOHC 'cause they look so cool, but 700 horse is a waste of time.

[DR 385]

Rodknock,

LOL, Even I couldn’t have chosen a more poetically divine name for a "FE"-TARD. My diagnosis is not hit and run, I will stand by it and the treatment. Please go get your rope.

KevinW,

Pendantic, High function Autistic?.... No just English, but that’s close enough.

Excaliber,

Ah yes, the mythical piece of metal stuck in to a stone..... I’ll just leave that be.
You seem to suffer (not near as much as those around you, but I digress)from one of the MOST SEVERE cases of “FE”-TARDATION I’ve seen. Unfortunately, It appears you also have also contracted B.S.
Billboard Syndrome. Ill try to touch on that in a later post, let’s stay on task.
“I was making over 600hp” mmmhhhmmm…..
“I rebuilt the motor and doubled my gas mileage” yesss, go on ….
“I lost 150hp and its only 3mph slower” really, that’s very interesting
Sorry I’m paraphrasing
“Making more hp than me is obviously a waste of time, because I cant go fast no matter what I do”

Don’t worry, its treatable.

I suggest group therapy with Rodknock, I would ask that you wait for him to complete his course before starting yours…

[DR 385]

Unfortunately gentlemen, I’m done for the day, I need to go over to the Porsche forums and treat some cases of the severely irritating Stuttgart-virus

The Dr is out…..

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by DR 385

Rodknock,

LOL, Even I couldn’t have chosen a more poetically divine name for a "FE"-TARD. My diagnosis is not hit and run, I will stand by it and the treatment. Please go get your rope.

KevinW,

Pendantic, High function Autistic?.... No just English, but that’s close enough.

Excaliber,

Ah yes, the mythical piece of metal stuck in to a stone..... I’ll just leave that be.
You seem to suffer (not near as much as those around you, but I digress)from one of the MOST SEVERE cases of “FE”-TARDATION I’ve seen. Unfortunately, It appears you also have also contracted B.S.
Billboard Syndrome. Ill try to touch on that in a later post, let’s stay on task.
“I was making over 600hp” mmmhhhmmm…..
“I rebuilt the motor and doubled my gas mileage” yesss, go on ….
“I lost 150hp and its only 3mph slower” really, that’s very interesting
Sorry I’m paraphrasing
“Making more hp than me is obviously a waste of time, because I cant go fast no matter what I do”

Don’t worry, its treatable.

I suggest group therapy with Rodknock, I would ask that you wait for him to complete his course before starting yours…

I'm just wondering what you are trying to prove with this? Just stirring the pot to see what kind of reaction you get? Well that should be obvious. When you attack someone they will defend themselves.

And before you start on me, two things. First is, I have a 385 series in my car, so you cannot attack me for that. Second is that what you are doing is not going to get my goat, so I really do not care.

[Ronbo]

Sorry "Dr" we don't have a kiddie corral here for you to play in. (Well the lounge, maybe. But that sandbox is pretty full)

Or was it your intention to Troll around briefly, before getting the boot?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

Or was it your intention to Troll around briefly, before getting the boot?

And I'm not giving him my Get Out of Jail Free Card either.

[DR 385]

67FEfastback,
As I have stated earlier, I agree with the position on ORGINAL cars and the use of period correct power-trains.
We are talking about REPRODUCTIONS not originals is any way! These cars are meant to provide the experience of a Cobra at a lower cost.

Excalibur,

Ahh! here again "FE"-TARDISM rears it's full of itself, swollen, ugly head.

"I won't give a second look at non FE's, because they are, well you know... not FEs...."
"I am not capable of figuring out how to actually calculate or harness the power my ancient lump of iron makes, so to suggest the building of a engine that can easily and cheaply eclipse my inflated numbers causes me to make irrational statements defending my obviously flawed position."

When I run your numberS thru several different drag calculators, they just don’t add up. ASSuming you car is approx 2800 lbs with you and fuel,
I would say your actual crank number were safely under 500 with your rwhp near 390-400 to arrive at a 121mph trap speed.

I would ask Mr. Schroeder if 700hp would be a "waste of time". I would believe that he has the experience and skill to put this level of power to good use.

Dr 385 at your service