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09-02-2009, 05:06 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Ahh, the Romeo engine, "stabbed with a white wrench’s black eye." Get it? C'mon, any english majors out there? 
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Well I'm giving up posting clever literary and poetic quips. This is about the fourth one that has fallen completely on deaf ears. 
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02-18-2012, 09:28 PM
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I agree
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Originally Posted by scottj
Nope, that doesn't work. The title is just a hook to get you to read the thread. The question asked in the thread supersedes the title through elaboration. Please... let's not derail this thread by allowing everyone to be "right". This thread has been more entertaining than than anything on here in about 7-8 years.
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thisd info.this is some good fun
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09-02-2009, 02:59 PM
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385 you ignorant slut, while you're hopping around from bed to bed spreading your social diseases.........................................
Anyone remember that SNL bit besides me?
BTW Doc, my name isn't "Hall."
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09-02-2009, 03:15 PM
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I'm just wondering what kind of a "Doctor" has all this time on his hands to read and respond to all these posts at all hours of the day? Most Doctors, that I know, are too busy to even sit down, much less read and answer internet posts all day long.
My guess is that he gets his jollys by pretending to be someone he isn't and screwing with various forums until he gets a bite.
Ignore him and he will take his bucket and go play in someone else's sandbox.
And it's "Jane, you ignorant slut........"
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09-02-2009, 03:28 PM
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Mr. undy,
Thank you, it’s a difficult road, but I will stay the course.
And there lieth the problem with the FE is best position.
Can you tell me why you feel an FE is worthy of “the most respect, awe, and dollars”?
I have shown that there are better choices from a power/cost standpoint.
I keep hearing “they are worth more at resale” and have been quiet about it until now.
To assume every present and potential Cobra owner is willing to pay more money and be limited by the architecture of that antique engine family is impotent thinking at best. That somehow spending more money to build the FE ensures a higher return on investment. The market clearly shows that is not true. I would ask that you look at the sheer number of Windsor Engine powered Cobras. That is the most accurate gauge of what the community as a whole wants. Like it or not.
From an investment standpoint, no engine family guarantees profitability at resale.
To continually preach “Better resale” is again, misinformation to those that are unfamiliar with the market.
Its slow in on the graveyard shift, I have time. LOL
I am curious why so many people think I’m screwing with the forum. I do enjoy the banter, but it’s not serious, I don’t want anyone banned, or beat up. Its point and counter-point with a satirical impetus. Pull out your facts and prove me wrong.
Dr385
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09-02-2009, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DR 385
I have shown that there are better choices from a power/cost standpoint. I keep hearing “they are worth more at resale” and have been quiet about it until now. To assume every present and potential Cobra owner is willing to pay more money and be limited by the architecture of that antique engine family is impotent thinking at best. That somehow spending more money to build the FE ensures a higher return on investment. The market clearly shows that is not true. I would ask that you look at the sheer number of Windsor Engine powered Cobras. That is the most accurate gauge of what the community as a whole wants. Like it or not. From an investment standpoint, no engine family guarantees profitability at resale.
To continually preach “Better resale” is again, misinformation to those that are unfamiliar with the market. Dr385
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Well clearly a small block powered Cobra will be cheaper to buy, since the engines are cheaper. Cheaper prices attract more crowds and buyers.
I can only speak for myself, but I wanted a 427 Cobra that, within my financial reason, was similar to the original 427 Cobra. The 385 engine family and the Windsor engine family did not provide me with enough similarity.
Everyone has different standards, but my intuition/opinion would tell me with two equivalent SPFs, but one has an FE, and the other a 385 or Windsor, the FE-powered SPF would/should sell for more. How much more? It would depend on the two engine builds.
Personally, I'm not sure what the market "clearly" tells you and I've watched it for a few years.
Gee, I can't wait for your typically insult-laced diatribe with lots of medical and psychiatric words and terms.
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09-02-2009, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehamr
385 you ignorant slut, while you're hopping around from bed to bed spreading your social diseases.........................................
Anyone remember that SNL bit besides me? 
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lol, right after the first three words......     good one
Last edited by vector1; 09-02-2009 at 04:10 PM..
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09-02-2009, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehamr
385 you ignorant slut, while you're hopping around from bed to bed spreading your social diseases.........................................
Anyone remember that SNL bit besides me?
BTW Doc, my name isn't "Hall."
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I do believe he was referring to me, and my name is "Hall".
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09-02-2009, 05:32 PM
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Mr. Rodknock,
So we agree, a non-FE is a better choice for resale.
I thank you for conceding the point and validating my argument.
Further, when you say:
"I think FE's are cool. They personify my vision of what a big block Cobra should be. As I have the financial means to deal with the issues that accompany an FE I choose to."
Kudos to you, for saying it with such clarity and honesty.
Opinion is precluded from ridicule, so long as it is clearly labeled as such.
Patrick,
For never was a story of more woe....
Dr385
Last edited by DR 385; 09-02-2009 at 05:33 PM..
Reason: typo
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09-03-2009, 07:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DR 385
Mr. Rodknock,
So we agree, a non-FE is a better choice for resale.
I thank you for conceding the point and validating my argument.
Further, when you say:
"I think FE's are cool. They personify my vision of what a big block Cobra should be. As I have the financial means to deal with the issues that accompany an FE I choose to."
Kudos to you, for saying it with such clarity and honesty.
Opinion is precluded from ridicule, so long as it is clearly labeled as such.
Patrick,
For never was a story of more woe....
Dr385
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Doc, I have no idea who's posts you're reading, but they ain't mine. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Please do NOT interpret what I write. In that regard, you're a failure.
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09-03-2009, 11:40 AM
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Stentor,
Good afternoon, welcome to the group.
You can call me Hermes.
Your assumption of my position, that Mr. Olthoff is a "fan" of 385's is incorrect.
I applaud your happiness.
Rodknock,
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Well clearly a small block powered Cobra will be cheaper to buy, since the engines are cheaper. Cheaper prices attract more crowds and buyers.
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I can only speak for myself, but I wanted a 427 Cobra that, within my financial reason, was similar to the original 427 Cobra.
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As you reading and writing skills are clearly the product of your propensity for mediocrity (also evident by your choice of engines). I have taken liberty with your words, in the same manner you have taken liberties with the facts surrounding this discussion.
Dr385
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09-02-2009, 08:34 PM
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Too bad the question is on Ford engines.....I suspect a Cummings diesal from a full sized Dodge pick-up should be the engine of choice for the serious Cobra connesieur...darn, did I spell that correctly?
I still go with the 289 for best bang per buck (but not for a 427 version Cobra....I'm an FE snob when it comes to that).....$500 re-ring/bearing job and probably a bit over 200Hp for the 289 in my 66 Mustang...I think it was rated at 225. So about $2.22 per Hp. Even if you can find a decent junkyard one for about $250, that still makes it only about $3.33 per Hp after a $500 rebuild.
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09-02-2009, 11:50 PM
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Actually the dodge analogy is a good one. It's constantly pointed out that the 440 RB block makes more horsepower, is easier to tune, and is way cheaper than the 426 Hemi.
Open the hood on a challenger or cuda, if it's got a 440, no one cares.
The 385 is the same way. More bang for the buck, but open the hood, and no one cares.
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09-03-2009, 11:51 AM
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After 11 pages of what Ford engine gives the best bang for the buck,we certainly learned one thing.Some of you are advocates of the FE,others the 385 series,finally there are the small block followers.In my case I have the best Ford engine in that search to get the best bang for the buck.No need to burden anyone with my reasons.
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09-03-2009, 11:59 AM
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09-03-2009, 01:19 PM
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Honestly, if it's possible to have one's opinion swayed...
well I actually associated the 429, with the smogged LTD wagon, or the 460 with the old family grand marquis (aka boat)
which brings me to boats, and all the 460 powered jet boats
but to really be convinced, there had to be a supercar.
No we're not talking about the 7 litre GT-40 (7 litre - isn't that an FE ?- aka racing heritage - nevermind we are talking about the great 460)
No, and we're not talking about the 5.4 litre Ford GT
We are talking about The ultimate 460 powered Super Car
So I am going to check my bank account, now. I just need shipping from Aus to North America. Ideas?
It's a 460, with a lot of bang for the buck, maybe I could JUMP it?
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09-03-2009, 02:23 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Roush 427R-095, Pro Systems carb, 2" headers, Buckshot Racefab side pipes, 10s off idle start
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Originally Posted by rtstrack
If you were going to buy, or have one built, what type of FORD engine combo would produce the highest HP/TQ per dollar, all else being equal. Just curious
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The small block with higher cubic inches.
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09-03-2009, 02:41 PM
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What was the original question before the posturing began?
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09-03-2009, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jhv48
What was the original question before the posturing began?
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That's the problem. There were two questions posed by the OP and while they're close, the questions are different.
AFLAC! 
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09-03-2009, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
What was the original question before the posturing began?
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The original question was " What is the best Ford engine per dollar?" Given that the question is highly subjective due to one's personal opinion, I am going to say MY solid lifter 427 FE is the best Ford engine per dollar because of the Woody I get each morning when I walk past it in the garage.   
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