"wet Paint" where should I order this stuff?

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Originally Posted by TButtrick

Not trying to be argumentative but, why would all the top wax manufacturers and detailers use something that would make your finish look worse than it was?

I never said clay baring will make it look worst always - I said it isn't going to improve RIDs or scratches and will probably induce more along the way, depending on how soft the clear is. (e.g., you use a claybar on a daily driven black g35 coupe and the paint, under proper lighting, will look like absolute hell after the claybar, but do the same thing on a corvette, and itwon't be anywhere near as noticeable)

Anyways, to answer your question - simple - because 99% of detailers follow a claybar with a compound and/or polish to remove the RIDs, scratches, and micro-mars. Only time somebody would jump from clay to wax would be if it were fairly new paint (or recently detailed paint), but I'm not certain who would do that since you reall yonly need to clay once every year or two, depending on use.

Originally Posted by TButtrick

If you have "micro-marring" of the paint from a clay bar or anything else (minimized by use of lube), these are easily filled in with a proper wax afterward.

Filling in swirls and scratches is just half-assed detailing. Proper compound and/or polish to remove them permanently, not just keep covering them up over and over and over. (and then proper care from that point forward to minimize them when they come back)

Originally Posted by TButtrick

Are you saying this is all marketing hype and we shouldn't use clay bars or are you saying the same thing as me, that you need to do it properly.

I'm saying that you need to do it properly, but also that there's no way to have 60k miles on your paint with just washes, clay, and wax, and not have any RIDs, or micro-marring (I'm purposely not writting scratches here because it's apparent that most people seem to think scratches mean stuff like key marks down to the primer) .... even Paul Dalton can't accomplish that feat.

The problem though is people become deconditioned as to what 'acceptable' paint condition is, because most believe that swirls, RIDs, and micro-marring are completely unavoidable and just hte paint aging.

For example, this would be considered acceptable to most people. Yellow corvette, direct sunlight. Hurts to look at with all the RIDs (atleast to me; as I said, most would probably just think the paint is aged)



After polish