Finally decided on a gun

[StanJ]

I am a gun owner, but I do agree that owning a firearm is not for everyone. Fear of (as opposed to respect for) anything with the potential to harm almost always makes it impossible to use that thing safely and responsibly; one needs to look no further than his or her garage or driveway for examples (lawnmower, car, etc.), and the fact of the matter is that some folks will simply never be able to get past their fear of guns no matter how many firearm safety courses they take or how many trips they make to the target range.

I own two handguns, a Glock .45 ACP and a Desert Eagle chambered for .50 AE. I don't hunt; the only reason I have them is to protect myself and my family. I take the responsibilities of gun ownership VERY seriously -- everything from security, maintenance, and safe handling procedures, yes…but also competence (I practice at least once per week, and the day I can no longer consistently shoot 4" groups at 25 yards will be the day I personally destroy my guns) and forethought about how I will respond to a situation that might call for me to use these weapons in the defense of my own life or that of a family member.

My preference for large-calibers is pragmatic and based on two simple truths: intimidation alone can sometimes be enough to end a threat (and the sight of the "business end"…particularly the D-E's…will definitely get your attention)…but in the unfortunate event that it is not, then statistically a claim of "self defense" rings true far more often when an assailant has a single very large hole in them rather than several smaller ones.

This brings me to my last point: responsible gun ownership also requires that you know yourself; i.e. have a clear set of moral parameters in place for that gun's use. Would you use deadly force to protect property? For me, the answer to that question is no; property can be replaced. But what about family? Personally, I abhor any loss of life and would look for any reasonable opportunity to avoid it, but I would not allow someone I love to be harmed by my inaction if they were in danger. I personally believe that once someone commits to a criminal physical attack on another person (rape, assault, attempted murder), the attacker's civil/human rights are forfeit until the threat of that attack is over. For some people though, the issue is not so clear-cut, and if you have any doubt about whether or not you could -- under any circumstances -- aim a firearm at another living human being and squeeze the trigger, then you should not put yourself in the position of ever having to make that decision.

[eschaider]

I was reading some of the anti gun stuff. I like my guns and I don't feel any need to explain their existence vis-a-vis protection or hunting or collecting to anyone. I just like guns!

A friend of mine (who understands my mindset on this issue) sent me this link because he said he thought of me as soon as he stumbled onto it. I think it fits a lot of us on Club Cobra so I am going to share it with all of you.

Click here => I Like Guns!

Enjoy.

Ed

<Begin Edit> I am also a Green Piece Fan! I just gotta get me one of them Green Piece T-Shirts. <End Edit>

[Car Nut]

The People have the right to own and possess guns.

The People do not have to justify why they own or possess guns.

The People should not fall for claims otherwise, including scams to restrict by law or taxation.

It seems pretty simple now, does it not?

[Danr55]

Zoomthis... Zoomthis... If you don't like the show, change your channel..

[mikiec]

Dan,

It's safe here. Additional reference to political party removed by myself.

Mike

[diegokid]

We tried out some new toys the other day while hunting. Longest shot was 1,832 yards at our looooong range grass patch. A friend of mine made the shot using a SWFA 20 power scope. Who ever said these scopes couldn't handle heavy recoil was wrong, at least for the couple hundred rounds we shot this weekend.

Backstrap wrapped in bacon is pretty good. So not only can weapons be used for fun, protection but they can gather food too.

[mikiec]

That's good shootin...

I'm happy if I can hit the broadside of the barn at 20 feet.

Mike

[Fitz]

I use to own a few guns and belonged to the Indianapolis Gun Club. Then I moved out here and "they" broke into my house and took everything. Bastards! Besides, she would shoot her eye out with those things!

[mikiec]

Dan R

yes? No?

Fitz, But more.

Mike

[Dwight]

Buzz,

it's a 1919 Browning Machine Gun, 308, 30/06 or 8 MM. Different barrel for each caliber. It's a fun toy. I have other toys. I live in Alabama and before ammo got so high we would have 3 or 4 machine gun shoots every year. That would be back in the "good old days." Lots of guys have machine guns, they're just big boy toys, like a Cobra. For home protection we have shotguns, pistols and rifles. I have a 12" 20 ga 5 shot pump. It, like the machine guns are registered with the ATF under the 1934 Nation Firearms Act.

Most of our group like airplanes, guns and cars. I guess it's a man thing.

Dwight

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by Dwight

Most of our group like airplanes, guns and cars. I guess it's a man thing.

Yup!!

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by Dwight

Buzz,

it's a 1919 Browning Machine Gun, 308, 30/06 or 8 MM. Different barrel for each caliber. It's a fun toy. I have other toys. I live in Alabama and before ammo got so high we would have 3 or 4 machine gun shoots every year. That would be back in the "good old days." Lots of guys have machine guns, they're just big boy toys, like a Cobra. For home protection we have shotguns, pistols and rifles. I have a 12" 20 ga 5 shot pump. It, like the machine guns are registered with the ATF under the 1934 Nation Firearms Act.

Most of our group like airplanes, guns and cars. I guess it's a man thing.

Dwight

I was kidding about the home defense part, and I can absolutely relate to the toy aspect. I learned to respect and enjoy guns (along with other tools and machinery) early in life and though I get to shoot a variety of weapons (including my own) with some LEO buddies, I envy you the experience of cutting loose on the range with a real machine gun. That's got to be a real blast!

[diegokid]

In MS silencers are ok if proper documentation. One of the most fun rifles to shoot is a silenced M-16 with a 22LR conversion. The ciener,(sp) kit works well in the full auto mode and you can afford to shoot a few bricks at the club. Its fun to pull the trigger and just hear the bolt slap back and forth then hear the projectiles hitting the target downrange. Another plus is not having to look for the brass.

A minus is how dirty it shoots. We have dedicated uppers for the conversions so we don't have to worry about cleaning the gas tubes.

[skibum2]

I'm heading south to be with the citizens, I'd rather be a citizen than a subject. I love America, but fear my Gov't... Oh yes, almost forgot.... They are going to start taxing our CANDY,.... can you believe it?...It's time...

[DWRAT]

Originally Posted by skibum2

. They are going to start taxing our CANDY,.... can you believe it?...It's time...

I also heard this the other day but I think it is BS.

[diegokid]

Happy new year!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581554,00.html

[Fitz]

And Boats With Guns and their cars parked outside or on top with the heilliiiiiochopper

[DWRAT]

I took the Sig out to Ben Avery today.
I spent about 50 shell getting the scope dialed in and then had some fun.
At 50 yards it is dead nuts and at 100 yards I am with-in 1".
I can't hold the gun very still but I can get close enough.

[vettestr]

Hey Dan,
Glad you finally took her out. Give me a call later and let me know what you thought about how it shoots. I know you only put a small amount down range but it should be a tack driver at 100 yards too with the new scope.

I have some brake rotors that should be a hoot to try and put rounds through the holes for the wheel studs. I threw a few things together for hanging/spinning targets that need to be broken in. Lets go make a bunch of noise out past Lake Pleasant (in the sticks)

[DWRAT]

Originally Posted by vettestr

Lets go make a bunch of noise out past Lake Pleasant (in the sticks)

Jeff / Bruce and anyone else that may want to go shooting, I am heading out in the Late A.M. (Friday 28th) to do some desert shooting.