ffr crash

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Patrick,

Would you be so stupid as to do this? Honestly, do you believe in what you post, or just want to post for the shock and awe factor.

He was drunk and got behind the wheel of the car, that was his mistake, regardless of what type of car it was. He got in to an accident and cost the life of his passenger, that was mistake number two. Can't wait to hear his excuses in court so he can make mistake number three, PERJURY.

While I can't disagree with anything you've said, and nor do I think Patrick needs the support, but IF you are being honest, he makes a valid point here, merely offering the other side of the coin.

I DONT like it one little bit, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist... or that your/our/a legal system sadly wouldn't see and choose this side of the coin.

YES, the law can stink!

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Dimis

While I can't disagree with anything you've said, and nor do I think Patrick needs the support, but IF you are being honest, he makes a valid point here, merely offering the other side of the coin.

Having read Bill's posts, both here and on our local board, for a good ten years or more, I can attest to his kind heart and passionate stance.

Of course, what I actually believe matters not. Nor does it matter that 90% of the men on this forum have, at least one time in their life, driven an automobile with a BAC over the legal limit.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Of course, what I actually believe matters not. Nor does it matter that 90% of the men on this forum have, at least one time in their life, driven an automobile with a BAC over the legal limit.

I've no tolerance for people mistaking "negligence" for "accidents".
...and less again for people who knowingly and actively blur the truth!

Our John here has tried both, and with it taken the life of someone's child, granddaughter, cousin, friend, possibly even wife, and/or mother.
Which can NOT be undone!

While I don't exonerate her responsibility in this (ie: her choice to get in the car), it could easily have been your child, daughter, wife, mother that he careered into at the next intersection.

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Just on your post - I've been told that 90% of stats are made up?
Can you reference yours please.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Just on your post - I've been told that 90% of stats are made up? Can you reference yours please.

Anecdotal, from State Troopers, of whom we have more than a few on this board. But I tend to believe it. I also believe "alcohol awareness" is much higher now than it was 30 years ago -- so maybe that figure is on the decline. Another "trooper anecdote" is that it's the amateur drunk who is the most dangerous.

[jhv48]

If I were in ffr's shoes right now, I would be preparing myself for a product liability lawsuit. They'll be caught in the civil suit net that lawyers always throw out there. You can bet your driving shoes this asshole is going to claim a shock broke (or some other critical part) and that's what caused the accident. A good lawyer will grab that cobra carcass and have it dissected and analysed every which way to see if they could possibly blame FFR for this accident. Or at least drum up reasonable doubt. And the shock breakage on early Bilsteins is well documented in ffr's forum.

Hope this twit's lawyers don't read this or the FFR forum.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by jhv48

If I were in ffr's shoes...

People have accidents all the time; fatal ones, too. And the reality of today's criminal justice system is that you don't have to show that the blood alcohol content caused the accident. The end result is that you could go to jail for an accident, because you were intoxicated, when, in reality, the alcohol had nothing to do at all in causing the accident itself. It was just your "status" at the time it all happened.

[mikeinatlanta]

Originally Posted by jhv48

If I were in ffr's shoes right now, I would be preparing myself for a product liability lawsuit. They'll be caught in the civil suit net that lawyers always throw out there. You can bet your driving shoes this asshole is going to claim a shock broke (or some other critical part) and that's what caused the accident. A good lawyer will grab that cobra carcass and have it dissected and analysed every which way to see if they could possibly blame FFR for this accident. Or at least drum up reasonable doubt. And the shock breakage on early Bilsteins is well documented in ffr's forum.

Hope this twit's lawyers don't read this or the FFR forum.

That car way predates the Bilstins, however, I have often wondered how it will work out when a kit car manufacturer puts out a car with zero passenger rollover protection and someone sues. With a good lawyer I think it's a win.