Mass-Flo systems

Merv and Sharon · #1 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 01:54 AM

I was wondering if anyone has had experience with these for Ford small blocks? I have seen one and they looked great and very original. I was wondering how hard they were to install and which tweaks of the tuning system were needed?

http://www.massfloefi.com/mass-flo-s...d833123f520780

Merv

Rob. Smith · #2 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 02:26 AM

G'Day Merv,
This system is similar...no need for a laptop etc. EZ-EFI from F.A.S.T. www.fuelairspark.com There is a very good article in the December issue of HOT ROD magazine. It might give you some idea.

Krait · #3 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 03:21 AM

Didn't Aussie Mike use something similar?

Cheers

Merv and Sharon · #4 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 03:47 AM

Thanks Rob. Did you mean this one? http://www.compperformancegroupstore...Category_Code=

I already have the standard EFI system (5.0L HO). The above seems designed to replace a carby?

Merv

Rob. Smith · #5 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon

Thanks Rob. Did you mean this one? http://www.compperformancegroupstore...Category_Code=

I already have the standard EFI system (5.0L HO). The above seems designed to replace a carby?

Merv

Sorry Merv, I thought you had a carby. What exactly are you after ?

Rob. Smith · #6 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon

Thanks Rob. Did you mean this one? http://www.compperformancegroupstore...Category_Code=

I already have the standard EFI system (5.0L HO). The above seems designed to replace a carby?

Merv

Sorry Merv, I thought you had a carby. This one says it hooks up to all the standard sensors. What exactly are you after ? That one you're looking at is also a carby replacement I think.

boxhead · #7 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 04:57 PM

I think Hogster has this sytem fitted to his car.

Merv and Sharon · #8 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 06:42 PM

True?? Any pics Hogster?

Merv

boxhead · #9 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 08:50 PM

Just did a quick search under his name.
Getting closer to start
And here is what your looking for.
The new fuel injection

Merv and Sharon · #10 (**permalink**) 12-09-2009, 09:18 PM

Thanks you Boxhead! I assume then that he added the 4 throttle body set up to a new manifold. I wonder if that could be done with the existing manifold, or even if that would be a good idea ... hmmm .

Lots to think about.

Merv

YerDugliness · #11 (**permalink**) 12-23-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Merv and Sharon

I wonder if that could be done with the existing manifold, or even if that would be a good idea ...
Merv

I'm thinking about building an 8.2" deck Clevor, called MasFlo and asked this very question, since they won't have a Clevor manifold. They said they could drill and tap my Clevor manifold for the injectors, no problems, and that the system would work just fine.

The only caveat was that the manifold needed to be a single plane manifold, not a dual plane. Seems all we have available here in the good ol' U. S. of A. is Edelbrock's dual plane offerings, might have to try to source a CHI manifold (UNLESS a B&A Track Boss should come up for sale).

Dugly

Aussie Mike · #12 (**permalink**) 12-24-2009, 12:52 AM

You want one of these http://www.chiheads.com.au/3v_manifolds.php

YerDugliness · #13 (**permalink**) 12-24-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

You want one of these http://www.chiheads.com.au/3v_manifolds.php

Yeah, Mike, that one down at the bottom looks just right.....if I didn't have to buy the CHI 3V heads, too.

Getting that stuff to the U. S. of A. costs an arm and a leg

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You Australian Cleveland/Clevor fans have no idea how lucky you were to have the Cleveland design around for so long. We had them for 4 years (less for the Boss 302), then our pollies decided to deep six the entire industry's performance based focus in favor of air pumps and catylitic converters.

For a while here, there was a company that made a Clevor manifold for the 8.2" Windsor block in both single plane (Track Boss) and double plane (Street Boss) designs.....I hear they appear every now and then on eBay, but I'm just not comfortable buying somebody else's problems, would rather buy new.

Hmmmmm.....I know MasFlo says the single plane is the way to go, wonder what would happen if one were to use a dual plane manifold anyway--I mean, the injectors are at the junction with the cylinder heads, what would be wrong with that? We can get an Edelbrock here for that combo (sure do wish Edelbrock would make an Air Gap Clevor manifold)!

Dugly

Sloth · #14 (**permalink**) 06-08-2010, 04:36 AM

not sure what mine looks like (i.e. EFI or Carby), but i reckon it looks COOL.

Go the turkey...

Merv and Sharon · #15 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 05:28 AM

Rob I have an EFI system - a standard Ford one and I was interested in one of those alternative systems (typically 4 throttle body setups) that 'look like' a carby (when pancake aircleaner is added). Mass-Flo is one such system and I was wondering if there were others. The one pictured may indeed do that but would connect to a carby induction manifold I believe.

Merv

Blittleton · #16 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 07:15 AM

I have installed about 12 of these systems, they are great if you are going for the carb look, but I don't think you will get any more hp of it. Here are some pictures of a few I've done.

Merv and Sharon · #17 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 02:28 PM

Thanks for that. That's what a motor should look like! They are all Mass-Flo systems I believe? Very nice work. We have to import these systems to Australia from the US as there is no local supplier. To be worth the expense, they have to look the part. They do.

Merv

stephen low · #18 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 03:28 PM

How do these systems vary from getting say an Edebrock manifold and converting to fuel injection?

I presume there is some eletronics provided with these systems that would not be an extra for a converted manifold but in either case i assume atrip to a dyno would be a must anyway?

Any advice appreciated as I am looking at the injected carby style look myself as a future option.

Blittleton · #19 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 04:29 PM

With these systems you get either a edelbrock torker or edelbrock victor with a single plane intake. Both of these intakes are adapted with injector bungs. Everything you need will come with this system except the fuel delivery system. You can order that from Chris at Mass Flo as well. No need to do any dyno time for tuning. Information needed is hp est. cubic inch size. That is it. Chris programs the computer to the specs you give him. It really is an easy installed compared to alot of others.

Bill

byroncobra · #20 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 09:26 PM

Merv

I'll probably go the same way with mass-flo after rego. I'm running the same engine as you.

Maybe if we purchase together we'll save a few $, if nothing else, on freight.
I'm considering sidepipes from the US as well, so given the strenghth of au$, maybe the sooner the better (I've been waiting for $ for $, but it's recently headed the wrong way)

What are you doing re heads?

Greg