How Can some Street Rods get full NSW Rego?

[boxhead]

Rod Hadfields car caused a lot of stir even in the hotrod world when he turned up on full rego.
Most of them saw it as a bad thing and dont talk about it.

From my understanding, it looked a fair bit different to its current setup when it was approved.

[sideshow]

just go back form getting ford eb v8 running on ls1 ecu
this motor is in a ford anglia and this guy is in the hot rod clubs
he said the new rego rules for hotrods and other special rego cars is you
will all need to supply recent photos of the car
these will get uploaded to a database i suppose and when the cops pull u up
they will be able to access the photos and see if anything has been changed from the pics
he said one guy who does pink slips for hot rods has done 5 cars like this
and since he isnt used to it yet he got pics for 3 or the cars and forgot pics for 2 of them
so it seems this might bbe in force at the moment
the guy with anglia also got the latests rules with rego for these types of cars
when he went to a hot rod club meeting last week
not sur eif this info is on rta site but it had a big no 6 on it so might be release version 6
only had half a page on the back about icvs
it mainly has breif descriptions bout what entitals a hotrod and what entitals an icv
didnt go into deep on either subject

[strida]

Baz & Liam
Travelling out of Sydney on the M5 wednesday afternoon in heavy traffic I was beside a car bouncing with "doof doof music ( apologies to doof doof lovers who may be on this forum), when I said to my wife look at that, a $200 car with $300 after market tail lights and $2000 stereo system and there's guys with Cobras and Clubmans who've done everything by the book and can't get registration.
When the traffic eased he was off like a scalded cat, no way would this car have passed an emmissions test, but somewhere there he had a vin number, I won't mention his tyres, I've got more grooves on my face than he had on his tyres, oops I just did.
It's a cruel world.
Best of luck with the Ops Baz.
Dennis
Liam, I hope you're right above the new state government

[Zedn]

Sideshow that is part of the new VSCCS.

All new ICVs and modified cars will be kept on file. This will include photos and engineers reports and will be accessible by policy on the side of the road. I hadnt heard that they were going to collect photos of old cars.

The document your saw was VSI 6. Its the RTA doc for light vehicle modification. I havnt heard of it being changed though.

Strida,

I know what you are saying. There is a kid that parks out the front of my house with a nissan Sylvia. It has wheel spacers that have the tyres sitting about 1inch out from the guards. The bumpers are held on with tape, it is mat black and the exhaust sticks out the back about 6 inches past the end of the car. I guess he thinks he is a drift racer.

What stage are you at with your build? Do you have an engineer? What does classic revival think about the RTA situation?

[jcraigau]

Originally Posted by Zedn

There is a kid that parks out the front of my house with a nissan Sylvia.

Hey Liam, didn't think the'd let "those" kind past the roundabout...

--JC

[Zedn]

Originally Posted by jcraigau

Hey Liam, didn't think the'd let "those" kind past the roundabout...

--JC

Unfortunately they manage to slip in some times. Its hard to check everyones passports as they come around the bends. Its not your friends sons car is it?

[jcraigau]

Originally Posted by Zedn

Its not your friends sons car is it?

He's got girls, and they are too young for doof doof.

[Inertia]

Thanks Baz. I look forward to the write up as I know a lot of others will.

Best of luck with the operation on the pins Baz. Remember you need them to be functional to be able to 'kick' up a stink.
Steve

[Merv and Sharon]

My last comment on this. Like others I remain ready to be part of any action group formed on this important issue.

[Tenrocca]

Bloody NSW....., but enough about the rego issues .I want to live in a state where words like "cogent" are used in day to day language. Im shifting to Vic.

[Towmaster]

My cousin has a registered original chassis, original steel body 26 A model on a property near Broken Hill. Gossip around the Hot Rod circles is 'Nationally' they are all going to have to be re inspected........ alledgedly! He actually rang me last week to ask if I had heard if the cobra's / ICV's were going thru the same thing.. He said it's all talk at the moment but there are a few worried Hot Rodders out there... What is the world coming to!
Why are they picking on a small minority of people chasing / living their dreams?
Just my 2c worth....

[strida]

Stopped in to organise my tailshaft today, the guy told me the local clubman supplier was no longer doing turnkey cars under the current regs, supplying kits and parts only

[Treeve]

Gents,

It's a mammoth thread, and I'm going to step back a couple of pages. From the department of Infrastructure's RVCS website, comes this little gem:

6.3 Replica: A vehicle that has a similar Make and/or Model name and/or the appearance of another Model in order to gain a marketing position based on that similarity. Typical examples are “AC Cobra”, “Lotus Seven” and “Jaguar XJ13”.

This gives you the opportunity to register as a low volume manufacturer and get federally legislated exemptions for one or two very insignificant things. But I'd advise you to read up on the circulars on the RVCS website / SEVS register website, they're surprisingly useful.

As for the UK IVA scheme, it ain't all roses, but at the same time, it is a lot more coherent than what we currently have in NSW. In fact, if you're diligent enough to review the UNECE regs that nearly all of the ADR's are equivalent to, you can all but use the IVA manual as a substitute for Australia. Find it on google, it makes a lot of stuff much easier to interpret than the legalese of the ADR's.

Treeve (Not quite english born, but close enough Baz!)

[Treeve]

Gents,

It's a mammoth thread, and I'm going to step back a couple of pages. From the department of Infrastructure's RVCS website, comes this little gem:

6.3 Replica: A vehicle that has a similar Make and/or Model name and/or the appearance of another Model in order to gain a marketing position based on that similarity. Typical examples are “AC Cobra”, “Lotus Seven” and “Jaguar XJ13”.

This gives you the opportunity to register as a low volume manufacturer and get federally legislated exemptions for one or two very insignificant things. But I'd advise you to read up on the circulars on the RVCS website / SEVS register website, they're surprisingly useful.

As for the UK IVA scheme, it ain't all roses, but at the same time, it is a lot more coherent than what we currently have in NSW. In fact, if you're diligent enough to review the UNECE regs that nearly all of the ADR's are equivalent to, you can all but use the IVA manual as a substitute for Australia. Find it on google, it makes a lot of stuff much easier to interpret than the legalese of the ADR's.

Treeve (Not quite english born, but close enough Baz!)

[beauies]

Treeve Is this the document you are refering to:

http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/cr...20May%2009.pdf

[Treeve]

G'day Beauies,

Yep, that's the one. The emissions stuff is completely irrelevant to Australia, but for headlight positioning, visibility angles, radius information, etc etc it is a great little bit of info. Certainly easier to understand than the ADR's.

Additionally, there is the SUTI form, which you can use (not searched the cobra forum yet to see if it's linked here or not). RVCS MENU Note: This form has been updated with VSB14, hoever not all states have accepted VSB14, and NSW is already looking for state specific additions to the National Code of Practise - less than 3 months after they agreed on it...

Treeve

[beauies]

I agree ten times easier to understand than the ADRs

[strida]

Originally Posted by beauies

I agree ten times easier to understand than the ADRs

Beauies,

Yes,
I have a brother in law in the UK just built a Lotus 7 replica.
He told me his rego check was a walk in the park, brake test done on a rolling road (similar to chassis dyno).....easy.
A guy with a Cobra went thru before of him, after hearing it he now wants to sell his clubman and build a cobra, couldn't get the sound of that V8 out of his head all the way home.

Dennis

[strida]

Liam,

You have a PM

[Treeve]

G'day Strida,

Yes, it is a lot easier to register cars in the UK. That's where I'm from, and I can confirm it is a lot simpler. However - and this is a big one - the quality and safety of the cars built over here typically excede that of those in the UK. Lets face it, the brake tests here are a touch more extreme than I would have expected, and it should be possible to provide evidence / calculations that the balance is correct and the brakes have been used in more aggressive manners in their original installation, however registration authorities here won't accept that. The other end of the scale, the UK tests, prove that the brakes function; it does not demonstrate that they are effective.

The UK system has some shining lights with regards to using old emissions requirements if you can prove the age of the engine (easily done based on engine number and information from the manufacturer).

It also has some glaring ommissions: there is nothing like a beaming and torsion test - so you can put whatever you like into whatever chassis you can bodge together in your shed. This leads to some terrifying cars. Lets face it - I've got a TVR 4.0 V8 in a Dax Rush. Did I have to prove structural rigidity, or safety of the seatbelt mounts? No. Is this a good thing?

To be honest, I'd love to see the entire IVA system over here, it would make life so much simpler, but there are bits and pieces of the way it is done over here that I think are also more relevant than some of the UK system.

Just my thoughts - I'd welcome others to change my opinions.

Treeve