302 Rebuild

[Beejay]

Ash,

Since when does power equal fast laps.......!

Tomcat,

I bet a stock LS3 with a cam would make similar power to your engine, and be under $10K. Ugly engines - yes. Bang for buck - awesome.

HSV300.

Very sweet motor!

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by Beejay

Ash,

Since when does power equal fast laps.......!

Tomcat,

I bet a stock LS3 with a cam would make similar power to your engine, and be under $10K. Ugly engines - yes. Bang for buck - awesome.

HSV300.

Very sweet motor!

beejay, whats a stock ls3 make 300kw max, probably not even that, that must be some cam youre going to stick in it to get over another 100kw from a stock engine just to get close to me and im only running a '' touring '' cam, if i was to stick a race bump stick in it as you would have to do, there would be no comparsion, so i bet thats wishfull thinking on your part

[Gav]

Originally Posted by tomcat racing

beejay, whats a stock ls3 make 300kw max, probably not even that, that must be some cam youre going to stick in it to get over another 100kw from a stock engine just to get close to me and im only running a '' touring '' cam, if i was to stick a race bump stick in it as you would have to do, there would be no comparsion, so i bet thats wishfull thinking on your part

I reckon argueing with the Pope about the theory of evolution would be kind of like this.

We are taking the side of EVOLUTION Tomcat

[Towmaster]

[quote=Beejay;1140604]Ash,

Since when does power equal fast laps.......!

Ben,

Couldn't agree with you more, up until Xmas I was running with about 280 rwhp which is well short of even the most basic LS engine. That 280 was good enough for a 1:08.0 @ the Nats on Friday practice last year. All about getting drive out of the corners, low down torque. Doesn't matter if it's got 500 Hp & no low down torque then it will underperform. Drags are a different matter totally. I had a vu SS ute that made 298 rwhp but had nothing under 4000 rpm. No drive out of corners unless you came out @ 4000 rpm.
Love the banter boys!

[Philm]

Tomcat, love your passion.

Power to weight is what its all about.

An Ls engine is like buying wine in a box. Yes it is cheaper per litre, its packaging is light weight, no need for a cork screw, it may even taste like wine.
A windsor is like a bottle of Penfolds Grange, rediculously expensive, comes in a heavy glass bottle, care must be taken with its storage, the cork must be carefully removed. The Taste will be rewarding and in your memory forever.

Now if you were offered a glass of each which one will you take??

Phil

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by Philm

Tomcat, love your passion.

Power to weight is what its all about.

An Ls engine is like buying wine in a box. Yes it is cheaper per litre, its packaging is light weight, no need for a cork screw, it may even taste like wine.
A windsor is like a bottle of Penfolds Grange, rediculously expensive, comes in a heavy glass bottle, care must be taken with its storage, the cork must be carefully removed. The Taste will be rewarding and in your memory forever.

Now if you were offered a glass of each which one will you take??

Phil

he he he love it!

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by Philm

Tomcat, love your passion.

Power to weight is what its all about.

An Ls engine is like buying wine in a box. Yes it is cheaper per litre, its packaging is light weight, no need for a cork screw, it may even taste like wine.
A windsor is like a bottle of Penfolds Grange, rediculously expensive, comes in a heavy glass bottle, care must be taken with its storage, the cork must be carefully removed. The Taste will be rewarding and in your memory forever.

Now if you were offered a glass of each which one will you take??

Phil

could not have put it better phil, that sums it up, and about power to weight.
one of them has still not passed me yet, even with their alloy donk

you win quote of the year mate

[Gav]

Originally Posted by tomcat racing

could not have put it better phil, that sums it up, and about power to weight.
one of them has still not passed me yet, even with their alloy donk

you win quote of the year mate

So you have never been beaten by a chev.

Christ you are even more full of s##t than I thought.

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by Gav

So you have never been beaten by a chev.

Christ you are even more full of s##t than I thought.

what ,getting under your skin there gav, i never said i cant be beaten just never have been to date by a street regoed ls chev

i stand by all my statements, i dont make buls##t remarks which you have to do to justify your choice of engine

you obviously dont like being taken to task, most holden blokes dont, they are too busy believing there own buls##t.

my offer still stands, put your natuarlly aspirated ls down the strip with it all tuned and cammed up and show us your time slip, thats when the bulls##t stops

[Gav]

Originally Posted by tomcat racing

what ,getting under your skin there gav, i never said i cant be beaten just never have been to date by a street regoed ls chev

i stand by all my statements, i dont make buls##t remarks which you have to do to justify your choice of engine

you obviously dont like being taken to task, most holden blokes dont, they are too busy believing there own buls##t.

my offer still stands, put your natuarlly aspirated ls down the strip with it all tuned and cammed up and show us your time slip, thats when the bulls##t stops

Nah all good Puss cat, takes more than that to get me going.
Why don't you come down for the Nat's?
I am sure that QLD would love a 'sure thing' to win at the drags?

[Beejay]

Lol,

Wine is for ladies! I will stick to spirits.

Now let's talk about relaibility of modified Ford engines. Keen to hear from Ash and Woz....


Ben

[tomcat racing]

Originally Posted by Beejay

Lol,

Wine is for ladies! I will stick to spirits.

Now let's talk about relaibility of modified Ford engines. Keen to hear from Ash and Woz....


Ben

no lets talk about how many of those piston slapping, oil burning, ls engines that holden had to rebuild from virtually new, and tried to cover up, hundreds at least if not more than a thousand, the mackay holden dealers workshop was full of them. and the holden captiva, the most recalled car in australian motoring history, if not the world, quality there son, go better, in yer dreams

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by Beejay

Lol,

Wine is for ladies! I will stick to spirits.

Now let's talk about relaibility of modified Ford engines. Keen to hear from Ash and Woz....


Ben

Apples with apples.... an unopened fuel injected 5.0 windsor will run forever.... just possibly like a post VT LS engine.... And just like the LS coming along in 1998 and being a superior standard engine to modify, the Coyote has now graced us with her presence and looks set to take over the title.....

kindling provided.....

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by Towmaster

Apples with apples.... an unopened fuel injected 5.0 windsor will run forever.... just possibly like a post VT LS engine.... And just like the LS coming along in 1998 and being a superior standard engine to modify, the Coyote has now graced us with her presence and looks set to take over the title.....

kindling provided.....

Oh forgot to add....

Engine failure was caused by a 16 year old flawed head design. I knew they were suspect but i ran the risk and paid the price because I was too tight to spend the money on new heads when i built my engine...... Aaahhhhhh the painful lessons we learn....

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by Philm

Tomcat, love your passion.

Power to weight is what its all about.

An Ls engine is like buying wine in a box. Yes it is cheaper per litre, its packaging is light weight, no need for a cork screw, it may even taste like wine.
A windsor is like a bottle of Penfolds Grange, rediculously expensive, comes in a heavy glass bottle, care must be taken with its storage, the cork must be carefully removed. The Taste will be rewarding and in your memory forever.

Now if you were offered a glass of each which one will you take??

Phil

Love it Phil.

But Fords still suck

[Philm]

Yeah, you get that Andrew when you run at the top of the pack. We will see what happens when the LS engines catch up.

[Gav]

Originally Posted by Philm

Tomcat, love your passion.

Power to weight is what its all about.

An Ls engine is like buying wine in a box. Yes it is cheaper per litre, its packaging is light weight, no need for a cork screw, it may even taste like wine.
A windsor is like a bottle of Penfolds Grange, rediculously expensive, comes in a heavy glass bottle, care must be taken with its storage, the cork must be carefully removed. The Taste will be rewarding and in your memory forever.

Now if you were offered a glass of each which one will you take??

Phil

Lololol

Well put Phil, I used to work for Ford and now work for loads of wineries including Penfolds.
You want to see the s##t both companies put into their products!!!!