New Build

[muzzza]

Car looks Fantastic Brad................After playing with and building cars for over 45 years, there are a million reasons why my Pace 427 will remain Gelcoat.......No question !!! Good stuff Craig. Murray

[deano59]

when ya doing 80 ks a hr down the highway do you think anyone will say gee I reckon it would look better with paint than a gelcoat colour ? .

the finish on these cars seem to bother you some what sambo for reasons only known to you . but the best part is if brad for example wanted to change colour im sure it wouldn't cost him anywhere near 10g to paint it as the body would need hardly any prep or shaping unless you was wanting a show car standard paint job then any brand of cobra would be up there in price .
im with wazza on this one what a strange question

cheers dean

[damage]

Some one stole all the gauges and steering wheel ignition and warning lights.

[400TT]

Originally Posted by damage

Some one stole all the gauges and steering wheel ignition and warning lights.

Damage, I can only take this as some form of an attack as usual. Go away.

For everyone else, we are simply getting Brad's dash trimmed in leather. He has just been fine tuning the mounting as you want to make sure everything is 100% before getting it trimmed. Next lot of photos will show a fully trimmed dash.

[damage]

Originally Posted by 400TT

Damage, I can only take this as some form of an attack as usual. Go away.

For everyone else, we are simply getting Brad's dash trimmed in leather. He has just been fine tuning the mounting as you want to make sure everything is 100% before getting it trimmed. Next lot of photos will show a fully trimmed dash.

No it actually wasn't an attack at all, I limit those just to you personally

[sambo]

Originally Posted by deano59

the finish on these cars seem to bother you some what sambo for reasons only known to you.

Dean, relax. See above. Did you get those LS part numbers I sent you?

[guye]

Point is, the gelcoat is awesome. And I won't be painting it. At least not in its first incarnation. It isn't metallic or anything though of course, and a paint job would give you that. So, no, it probably isn't as good as a $10k paint job. It is different to a $10k paint job.

Dean is right though - I'd reckon the prep for a paint job would be easier with this finish meaning you could get a $10k paint job for maybe $7k

But what would I know - I'm only a computer nerd.

[Paintwerks]

It really depends how far you want to take it.

Colour choice including whether the car will be a solid or metallic will determine the cost of materials, as would the inclusion of painted-on stripes. But for all intents and purposes, using high quality materials such as PPG or Glasurit, there's anywhere between $2000-3500 in materials alone.

Most quality bodyshops (including mine) charge between $100-120 per hour which we believe is fair and reasonable given the cost of a skilled and experienced trades person can easily eclipse $70 per hour alone. Then you factor in overheads, depreciation and g-d forbid the shop makes a little profit inside that hourly rate, too.

Even on a nicely constructed Pace body, there'd still be anywhere between 40-70 hours labour in the job, which factors disassembly, cleaning/decontamination, initial prep/sanding, fixing of any lows and discrepancies (yes, they do exist on the body to certain extents depending on when it was manufactured), masking, priming, block and hand sanding the car in a minimum of 3 different grits (incl. wet sanding), cleaning/decontamination, masking, surfacing/sealing, painting/baking, denibbing/polishing and reassembly. So there's $4000-7000 on average in labour.

Flowcoating additional clearcoat following the original application of clearcoat would be considered an extra-cost addition.

Add GST and as you can see, painting of a Pace would typically cost between $6,600 to $11K. There will obviously be some variation in that, but I'd say Guy was pretty much on the money with the job on average typically costing between $7-8K. That would be for a high quality result in metallic which would include painted-on full length stripes. Number rondelles and/or rookie stripes would be an extra cost option.

Hope this helps to clarify people's understanding/expectations of what it costs to paint the car.

Cheers,
Sime

[BJ's Snake]

Originally Posted by Paintwerks

It really depends how far you want to take it.

Colour choice including whether the car will be a solid or metallic will determine the cost of materials, as would the inclusion of painted-on stripes. But for all intents and purposes, using high quality materials such as PPG or Glasurit, there's anywhere between $2000-3500 in materials alone.

Most quality bodyshops (including mine) charge between $100-120 per hour which we believe is fair and reasonable given the cost of a skilled and experienced trades person can easily eclipse $70 per hour alone. Then you factor in overheads, depreciation and g-d forbid the shop makes a little profit inside that hourly rate, too.

Even on a nicely constructed Pace body, there'd still be anywhere between 40-70 hours labour in the job, which factors disassembly, cleaning/decontamination, initial prep/sanding, fixing of any lows and discrepancies (yes, they do exist on the body to certain extents depending on when it was manufactured), masking, priming, block and hand sanding the car in a minimum of 3 different grits (incl. wet sanding), cleaning/decontamination, masking, surfacing/sealing, painting/baking, denibbing/polishing and reassembly. So there's $4000-7000 on average in labour.

Flowcoating additional clearcoat following the original application of clearcoat would be considered an extra-cost addition.

Add GST and as you can see, painting of a Pace would typically cost between $6,600 to $11K. There will obviously be some variation in that, but I'd say Guy was pretty much on the money with the job on average typically costing between $7-8K. That would be for a high quality result in metallic which would include painted-on full length stripes. Number rondelles and/or rookie stripes would be an extra cost option.

Hope this helps to clarify people's understanding/expectations of what it costs to paint the car.

Cheers,
Sime

Interesting read there Sime.
I think you are on the money as well, I am getting quotes of between 15 and 18 grand to paint my FIA.
I, for the life of me cannot find the justification in those prices.
10k should stop it I reckon.

What am I missing here.
Cheers

[Paintwerks]

Originally Posted by BJ's Snake

Interesting read there Sime.
I think you are on the money as well, I am getting quotes of between 15 and 18 grand to paint my FIA.
I, for the life of me cannot find the justification in those prices.
10k should stop it I reckon.

What am I missing here.
Cheers

I suspect it might be because typically, other replica Cobra's need around 40-100 hours of bodywork and multiple rounds of priming and blocking. Shops know this and need to estimate accordingly.

Although the Pace body is really good, it still needs bodywork before paint but there's nowhere near the hours in it compared to others.

Why don't you bring her down to Mexico and I can paint her for you BJ?

[Wazza]

Don't forget your old mate here.

[damage]

Originally Posted by Wazza

Don't forget your old mate here.

I thought we had drawn a line in the sand actually.

[400TT]

Originally Posted by damage

I thought we had drawn a line in the sand actually.

You crossed the line recently when you bagged the Absolute Pace product in comparison to Factory Five. You just could not help yourself.

And your comment above is just a smart a$$ comment.

You are not welcome in any thread concerned with Absolute Pace products.

Go away.

[damage]

Originally Posted by 400TT

You crossed the line recently when you bagged the Absolute Pace product in comparison to Factory Five. You just could not help yourself.

And your comment above is just a smart a$$ comment.

You are not welcome in any thread concerned with Absolute Pace products.

Go away.

Really Craig your such a premaddona, I didn't bag your product at all in comparison to the factory five. If you took it that way sux to be you.

I've left you alone I havent commented on half of your absolute crap that you post yet you choose to have a swipe at me for a harmless comment.

OMG half the comments on this entire australian forum here are smart a$$, enough so that most people make it known as a common joke.

Unless your the forum moderator you really don't have a choice where I post mate so suck it up.

I've left you alone so leave me alone or I will start again.

[400TT]

Originally Posted by damage

Really Craig your such a premaddona, I didn't bag your product at all in comparison to the factory five. If you took it that way sux to be you.

Such a short memory...

Originally Posted by damage

Was just reading your (Factory Five) specifications and your(Factory Five) kit seems to include a lot more then others in every respect.

Your kit price appears to be a hell of a lot cheaper then the AP complete kit...

You could not help yourself, you had to negatively compare my product directly by name. And what is really funny is that I know you would have no real idea of what is included in either brands kit. So you have insulted both AP & FFR owners as a result. BTW I am happy for PACE 427 kits to be compared directly to any other kits, including FFR. Please contact us for our Full Packing List and photos of included parts etc.

Towmaster, this is my last response to this person in this thread. I'm done here.

[renovationinnov]

now! now play fair boys

[Jethrow]

Wow - boys are being sensitive here - settle down I say.

I know there is history here, but I thought damage's post was just a small funny at the picture of a space where the dash would normally sit. It does look like the gauges are missing! I think the reaction to that post may have been a touch overblown ....

Anyway, car is looking brilliant, a credit to all involved.

[Towmaster]

Let's get this back on track, once again!!!!
This is about Brads Cobra build, please let's keep it that way.

[Wazza]

PLEASE..don't start this rubbish again Damage.....
We are all sick of this nonsense.

Moderators ?

[damage]

Read the posts Wazza I didn't start anything, He's your mate you tell him to stop. I asked him to leave it he didn't. I'm happy to stop I haven't commented for some months now because I couldn't be bothered.



Brad sorry at my poor attempt of light hearted humour. Your car looks great and congrats on your journey.