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Hoity.......I grew up in Indianapolis and always liked to tinker with anything mechanical. My dream was to build... but as I got a little older reality set in that my skill level, time and desire really wasn't there. After much research, I decided to buy a Superformance. Don't get me wrong, there are many, many nice vehicles out there but I elected Superformance because of them being produced on a factory line and felt as though consistency was there. I'm sure happy I did as the only thing that is needed is a key and wax. I wish I could say that I put my heart and soul into the build but can't like many others. It's hard to describe the enjoyment of driving the beast on a beautiful day so I wanted a car that I could get in and drive without worrying about getting too far from home! Good luck and hope your dreams come true....You won't be sorry.
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Welcome.

Firstly, if I may be so crude, what's your budget and what level of experience do you have?
My decision was based on those two factors above.

Good luck & Enjoy the fun.
Thanks dimis, funny thing I haven't thought too much about the budget, 50k upfront for the pace might be an issue, given if you buy a kit and you can drip feed the cash over the life of the project I think I will be ok.
I am an electrician by trade, rebuilt a ford v8 30 years ago, just finished a Reno on the house. Pretty hands on with Dirtbikes and Harley's currently. I think I am up for it, just need to get wifey on board and sort out my time management.
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i built one about 17 yrs ago but was forced too sell it in a divorce and vowed and declared i would get another one when my circumstances changed .
i didnt want too build one after doing that with the last one scrounging thru wreckers and buying old jags then cleaning and recondition everything as i went along 3 yrs to build it i thought bugga that .
i,looked at a few local and flew interstate to tassie too look at one but couldnt find find one that suited my needs or i liked the look of .
in the end the wife and myself flew up to qld to check out the pace kits and was blown away by the quality and the engineering of the cars ive been involved in motor sport for the last 30 yrs and these equalled and in many cases bettered what i was used too .
we placed our order this time last yr and have made all the payments apart from transport to adelaide so we are waiting patiently for a delivery date . in saying that my car had to be modified to accommodate the 6 speed auto trans in it around the trans tunnel as there a wide bugga of a trans .
but due to a leg injury using a clutch pedal is out of the question and i didnt want to use a old turbo 400 trans or the like when i could have a 6 speed behind a L98 engine .
im lucky as my wife is motor car and Motorsport tragic she is on the committee and is the time keeper in our club where i race so i dont have any problems spending and her getting upset with in reason .

if your in a hurry and want a car to drive around in this summer look for one on the road and ready to go if your not in a rush check out the absolute pace kits or the factory five kits and see if there to your liking .
50g will put you into a car on the road as a base level inho after searching for one and the pace depending on what extras you want and how much of it you can do yourself imj budgeting for around 85g give or take a bit , in my case i can do all engine work and mechanical work as a semi retired mechanic put i will pay someone to do the wiring and trimming .
what ever way you go building or buying they will put a smile on ya dial for many a mile when ya out cruising .

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i built one about 17 yrs ago but was forced too sell it in a divorce and vowed and declared i would get another one when my circumstances changed .
i didnt want too build one after doing that with the last one scrounging thru wreckers and buying old jags then cleaning and recondition everything as i went along 3 yrs to build it i thought bugga that .
i,looked at a few local and flew interstate to tassie too look at one but couldnt find find one that suited my needs or i liked the look of .
in the end the wife and myself flew up to qld to check out the pace kits and was blown away by the quality and the engineering of the cars ive been involved in motor sport for the last 30 yrs and these equalled and in many cases bettered what i was used too .
we placed our order this time last yr and have made all the payments apart from transport to adelaide so we are waiting patiently for a delivery date . in saying that my car had to be modified to accommodate the 6 speed auto trans in it around the trans tunnel as there a wide bugga of a trans .
but due to a leg injury using a clutch pedal is out of the question and i didnt want to use a old turbo 400 trans or the like when i could have a 6 speed behind a L98 engine .
im lucky as my wife is motor car and Motorsport tragic she is on the committee and is the time keeper in our club where i race so i dont have any problems spending and her getting upset with in reason .

if your in a hurry and want a car to drive around in this summer look for one on the road and ready to go if your not in a rush check out the absolute pace kits or the factory five kits and see if there to your liking .
50g will put you into a car on the road as a base level inho after searching for one and the pace depending on what extras you want and how much of it you can do yourself imj budgeting for around 85g give or take a bit , in my case i can do all engine work and mechanical work as a semi retired mechanic put i will pay someone to do the wiring and trimming .
what ever way you go building or buying they will put a smile on ya dial for many a mile when ya out cruising .

cheers dean
Thanks dean, it's amazing how many people have been touched by the cars many years ago only to have the desire to have one lay dormant, until such time as we can make it happen. Even worse for you having had one, let it go and now that life is all the better with a wife that's into what your into. The pace car is now on my shortlist, it is all good news so far with that car.
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Thanks for the link muzza. I am not ready to pull the trigger yet, although at the moment I want a ford motor. It certainly is a nice bit of kit. Good luck with everything and if by chance it's still around when I ready, who knows.
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I'm a sparks too Hoity, and started out like yourself without a solid budget.
I bought the basic body and chassis and then bought parts as they where required, affordable or if I had the cash.
Just like any complex task you will learn new skills and hone ones you had building a cobra.
As far as supplier support goes CR is sometimes a little disappointing, but the wealth of knowledge the other builders have is more important.
If you are really serious about building a cobra, get your butt to the nationals the weekend of the 2/3/4 and see what the differences are between kits and start building your new circle of mates!
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I forgot to mention, what I liked most about the CR was that most of the parts are not custom one off bits, if I was to break a lower control arm on the front I can locate a jag part from anywhere and fix it. I didn't like the idea of having to buy parts from one supplier who may go out of business. I'm not saying anyone is going out of business in the cobra game but I wanted to future proof my car.
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Hey gav, just took the wife out for breakfast and had the conversation. As you know that's grand final weekend here in Melbourne, which we of late have been going away for and watching the game on the TV in our camper trailer. Now I am suggesting we get up to Goulburn for the weekend, kill two birds with the one stone, so to speak.

I have some questions which I will post in the cobra nationals thread.

Thanks for the info on the CR, it's my preferred choice at the moment and given its pedigree appears to be a well engineered kit.

Why chev for you?
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i forgot about the cr kits and also the g force kits as well best idea is to sit in a few and see how well you fit in them ...the old chev vs ford when i built my first one if you had anything but a ford engine you could almost get shot for treason .
alth there was the odd chev and 308 powered cars around and i also went for a ride in a rb 30 turbo powered cobra it was bloody fast but just looked and sounded wrong .

with ls engines been so cheap and plentiful nowdays and you can make good power out of them the stigma i feel about having a chev powered car is not as bad as it used to be well at least i dont think you will shot for treason ..

it's true a car built with jag bits parts will always be plentiful and cheap .
with my pace i will prob order a spare set of wishbones and uprights once the car is finished and have them for just in case . failing that im not all that concerned with the amount of different wishbones and uprights been used in speedway i am confident something could be adapted to fit after all its just metal & alloy and not something used on a space shuttle ..
a trip to the nationals will prob having you leave there with placing a order with one of the suppliers .
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Get your Missus in a Cobra for a ride......Once my Missus had a ride in one she was hooked and Cobra freedom fell my way.....infact she drove my last red Cobra more than me.....
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Get your Missus in a Cobra for a ride......Once my Missus had a ride in one she was hooked and Cobra freedom fell my way.....infact she drove my last red Cobra more than me.....
That sounds like a plan.

Do they do rides via suppliers ect at the nationals or is it a visit to the manufacturers factory etc?
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I appears your have concerned about a Chev.

Here is a way of looking at it.

It's like beer, pizza and sex............ Even if you think it's bad..... It's still good.

And if you have any one of these and your mates don't, well you got something to brag about.
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Jon, re Cobra ride....PM sent

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Ever since dad rocked home in the early 1980s with a scalextrix set and his car was the ford cobra, I could have any other car except that one. I have often thought about owning one. As life unfolds the reality of actually doing it gets a bit closer, I am at the point now where I want explore the possibility and would like to understand some of the reasons behind why people have gone down the path they have. Ie, chev motors in ford cars, why they chose the kit they did, how have the kits available today evolved, are donor cars no longer the way to go?

I have started my journey by talking to two kit suppliers, both appear very knowledgable and are very passionate about what they do. Read a whole lot on this forum, and I must say some of the detail some forum members go to is simply amazing. Whilst this is great see photos and read along as they ply their craft, it can be a little intimidating, then their are others who have stunning cars to look at and plenty of bling but not quite the extra 20% some of the artisans go to, which gives me belief I can do this.

So my first question for the forum, would be why you chose the kit you did?

Appreciate any and all comments

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Jon,

Firstly, welcome to the forum. We need more members and we need good build threads.
As you can see from my avatar, there's a Scalextrix Cobra in my past as well, so yes, I've always wanted one but only in recent years realised that it was within reach.
The Scalextric car is a 289FIA, so naturally that's the one that I've always wanted to build. None available here in Australia, so I had a deposit down with ERA for one of their wonderful 289FIAs, but soon realised that it would be a long hard road bringing in a car and having to have much more individual 'engineering' done to enable registration.
That was the point that I started talking with Craig White (Absolute Pace) and made a visit to the factory. Craig was enthusiastic about my idea of building an FIA replica here in Australia....so we talked about it on and off over a couple of years and then I finally decided to jump in and get moving with it.
....so, my car is - as far as I know - the first 289FIA in Australia (anybody - please correct me if I'm wrong). My car is of course the prototype for AP, so it's really a project that's developing as the car's being built. There are no surprises so far; I'm 2000km from the factory, so I get update pictures every week.
Here's my build thread if you're interested:
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So, Ford vs Chev? It's a personal thing, and for me the originals had a 289 SBF so mine absolutely had to have an SBF as well. Yes, it's a little different to the original, but at least it is still the same engine family.
There are a few of us around the place with Ford engines in our cars. We're probably the quieter ones, because we don't have to make excuses

Some advice - don't jump into it too quickly; if you see pictures of cars or features on cars, or colours etc. take copies and put them in a folder for reference. That way, you will narrow down on what you want, and you'll also become aware of what you don't want. More advice - use this forum; ask questions ...there's a lot of experience and knowledge here.

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I started out a long time ago wanting a Ford motor with a 9 inch but I ended up with a Lexus motor and Skyline rear end. Sometimes it just works out that way.

The cobra community is evolving. At the end of the day its your dream and you do whatever you desire. My Toyota powered V8 8TB car was great but not for the purists. I owned a 1/2 share in a turbo'd Lexus which was great too but a long way from todays offerings. I've got a 351w in my track cobra and I've also got an LS2 in a Daytona. Do I have a preference, no. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and go like ASOS but I'm not overly concerned as to their power plant provenance.

There are some outstanding cars out there. All different types of configurations. Drb, Harrison, RMC, Superformance, Classic Revival, Robnell, Pace, Factory 5 PLus many more etc etc etc
There are less manufacturers out there now than 10 years ago but the quality of the ones remaining is very good and improving.

Look at Aussie Mikes car, The B Club crews Classic Revival cars, Leroys rebuild, Brads AP. There's so many options and avenues the list is never ending.

Last year, I wanted another car. Sought out an RCR GT40 and looked into a FIA Cobra and I tried a few suppliers for options and in the end opted out for a 2nd hand car rather than having a new one built or shipped in from OS. And the Daytona I bought was not on my radar at all.

It was simply the end result having tried to achieve different things from the marketplace with varied success. You may very well achieve a different outcome.

The biggest thing imo is to have a realistic expectation and talk to people about cars and their experiences. Then halve your expectation and double the time frame and budget and you'll be in the zone. Find a seller or manufacturer that you're on the same page with in relation to expectation and the delivery of that expectation. I found with my cobra purchase from an OS supplier that their keenness to talk to me reduced a fair bit once I'd sent the funds. That's how I felt about it anyway, they may disagree. The level of communication became a bit lopsided. Which was very suckful! No one wants to $hitcan the brand of car they've just forked out wads of coin for but I can tell you there is nothing more frustrating when the dialogue and promises all dry up once the funds have been sent or deal done. You're then at their mercy which is real bugbear of mine and I try to avoid that. Which is why after my OS experience and forming a collective on the local market that I simply found a car I liked and bought it privately. It wasn't about the $'s it was about the qualified angst I'd endure which in this life I can simply do without.

Just do your research, talk to cobra people, go for a drive in a few and then talk to some more people. The decision is yours. There is lots of great information out there, the cobra community is a special one and we are all pretty lucky to be a part of it. Welcome aboard and see you at the Nats.

Regards Spookypt
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Hi Hoity.
I have a similar preamble to yourself and most others.
I saw one in Melbourne in early 80's. pointed at it and asked my stepfather what it was.
Gloss black Cobra, chrome everywhere and big wheels, and a sound that was earth rumbling, the seed was set and I promised myself "I will have one of them one day".
Life rolls on and after a few relocation's and growing up, The chance to finally have a serious look happened.

I am a mechanic by trade and consider myself fairly hands on, with a willingness to have a crack at anything.
My "must haves" where
1- removeable body (I liked the idea of being able to work on it without having to crawl under body work while assembling)
2- Correct shape, some kits just are not quiet right in there overall shape (CR isnt spot on, but it is pretty close)
3- being able to source parts from donors, some see this as a bad thing, but a big part of the fun I had (and continue to have) is the hunt for parts I needed.
4- My build was always going to be a long slow process, as I am a tight arse, so I would save money, buy the next bit, then hunt and buy the next bit etc etc.
So a single supplier all in one hit was going to make it hard.

When I started looking, I was living in Nth Qld, i had pretty much nutted it down to Harrison or CR (CR in prime possi as Harrison body is fixed to chassis), on a drive to Melbourne, I stopped at both Harrison and CR to check out the cars with my own eyes, I had also "met" Aussie Mike through this forum, and he had recently obtained a CR and offered me a look at a car pulled apart.

After seeing the Harrison car, I was very happy, Warrick was very accomodating and showed me around, I then saw Ian and the CR, There was a red car in there being assembled (Sloths car), and I fell in love with it.
After seeing Mikes car in Melbourne my mind was set.

Life took a quick change and found myself relocated to Alice Springs, Money was saved and a CR was placed on order, Ian built the car quick smart and it was ready in approx 6 weeks.
I arranged for it to be freighted out, and so the story of building began.
I found the build fairly straight forward, but I also became acquainted with a great bunch of guys who where mostly all in the same boat of building a CR, the knowledge willfully shared certainly made building easier.
Yes, Ian is not the best salesman around, but he built the nuts and bolts of a good product, and with the genius of Aussie Mike, these cars just get better.

The CR car is a different beast now to the one I built (square tube chassis V round tube chassis), but from the ones that are built and being built, it appears the owners are having a similar experience to what I did.

Would I do it again, without a doubt.
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I wouldn't use the word "Genius" Dave. OCD with completionist issues is probably more accurate .

Despite my differences with Ian I still believe the CR is the basis of one of the best kits in the country. The bones are all there and it has the features I liked (Similar to Dave above).

What has made it great for me is the ongoing development and support from the CR building community. I think you will probably get that from any of the kits you settle on. Pace builders are all sharing ideas and tips, same as Harrison, G-Force etc.

What ever kit you settle on get ready to make a new bunch of good friends as you embark on the journey.

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