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Old 04-20-2017, 09:13 PM
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In the past 20 years Iíve organised well over 50 events for the Victorian Cobra club, about half of those were performance related (Shelbyfest, Deca, Mangalore, Heathcote etc.).
Iím amazed at how complicated people can make these things. Sometimes simple is the best.
Take the 10 years Tony and I ran ShelbyFest as an example. We just built the event around what we had. Sponsorship covered the big ticket items, and the entrantís fees covered the variable costs associated with the number of competitors. We had a loss one year when Roaring Forties went under and stiffed us $2K but made up for it the next year. When we had extra cash we got an entertainer and bigger trophies. When we didnít have the extra cash we scaled back. It didnít matter if we had 20 competitors or 70 we always covered the bills.
Hereís where things get messy. The event gets more popular, so the organisers think they need to build the event bigger and give more value as the years go on. No! If costs start getting out of hand; start knocking back on the simple things first. Smaller trophies and less of, no freebie T-shirts and if you need to drop a day, then so be it. Iím sure Shelbyfest could have made a profit at Winton this year with a few tweaks and the same numbers as last year; just drop the skid pan, scale back the trophies and didnít give out free T-shirts to everyone.
I donít think people have the respect they should have for the Cobra Nationals anymore (maybe myself included). If 45 Cobra are where we are at; dump Wakefield and organise a retro Nationals in a regional setting such as West Wyalong. Run a few events on the airstrip and a go to woe on a back street. Have a big main street cruise, show and shine and make sure the whole community is involved.
Then once we get the love back in to the Nationals and Cobra numbers up, we can scale it to the next level again (but only baby steps or we end up where we are once more).
Maybe itís time to give you a break NSW. Letís book out a few motels a function centre, inform the local council and media and rock the Nationals old school once more!
The Nationals was not always about going fast and winning trophies.
North Victoria, Mid NSW or East SA; Iíd travel there in a heartbeat to re-live the Nationals spirit from the late nineties and I think a lot of the ladies would as well.
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REPTYL would you come to QLD?
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I think we established back on page 2 that turning the nationals into a predominantly social affair would be a disaster.
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spookypt. If I didn't have a young family and could take a week off, yes I would travel to QLD. Even now depending on the event I'd probably give it go.
The more Cobras driving up from Vic the more likely I would come.
That way the trip up becomes part of the whole experience.
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I think we established back on page 2 that turning the nationals into a predominantly social affair would be a disaster.
I've seen massive social turnouts in QLD, NSW and Vic. I threw a car show together about 10 years ago in Melbourne and got almost 100 cars.Why couldn't we get 200 Cobras to meet up somewhere in the middle of the Eastern states and call it the Nationals.

We could still have a race at Wakefield each year. Move Shelbyfest there scale it down and keep it simple.

a 200 Cobra social event is more 'Nationals' than 45 cars at Wakefield. A hell of a lot easier and cheaper to run. I think you'd be surprised how big an event it could be.

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Making the nationals a predominantly social event had the largest negative response of any of the suggestions in the survey. Just saying..
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Making the nationals a predominantly social event had the largest negative response of any of the suggestions in the survey. Just saying..
If you asked me if I wanted to turn the current Wakefield weekend in to a predominately social weekend, I'd so no also, as it would be a disaster.

That's not what I'm proposing here.

Run a massive National car show/social event that brings the masses from all the states and costs stuff all.
Then run your separate Wakefield event over 1 or 2 days without the pressure and big cost of the current format.

You keep the racers happy, you keep the costs down, you get big numbers back to a National event and organisation for both of these events would be less than the current levels needed for the single event.
It's a win all round.
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Promotional girls would always be a plus...But I am a single guy and therefore by default sexist. A ride along would be great as well- it would bring enthusiasts into "thinking" into buying or realising we are all mad. Trying to get the time to get a vehicle to track may not be convenient as there is the time to get there. So location is important as a "National" event.. Even though the trip half the experience, then breaking it, is the adventure getting it home... It is a five + day event from most places other than NSW. But I hopefully I shall have my car built in time to compete, have some time off (not likely, I have to present to work) and if that all happens then you can all see how not to drive if I get there. Hopefully Nationals 2017...2018... Cheers, Pigsear.
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