Everybody's hung up on the color. Completely missing the fact that it's an eyelash away from 700HP on EFI.
If Kroyer set it up right, it's as easy to start as a Honda and less temperamental.
At 120K I'd buy it, soda-blast that paint and get to wire finish and leave it. Really make the seller cry.
Then-run it's nuts off.
Everybody's hung up on the color. Completely missing the fact that it's an eyelash away from 700HP on EFI.
If Kroyer set it up right, it's as easy to start as a Honda and less temperamental.
At 120K I'd buy it, soda-blast that paint and get to wire finish and leave it. Really make the seller cry.
Then-run it's nuts off.
Chas, if I were in the market, I wouldn't be hung up on the color for $120K. At or close to asking, I'm hung up.
I haven't been there recently, but looking on Cobra Country, the one thing I've noticed is that ERA's often get painted with non-standard colors, but for $50,000-$70,000, one can maybe tolerate the non-standard color more.
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... the one thing I've noticed is that ERA's often get painted with non-standard colors...
Uhhh, ya mean, like, beige? Let me tell you, if I had a nickel for every time I had someone tell me "thank God it's not another red, yellow, or blue Cobra" I'd have enough dough to buy that goof ball Black Cherry car.
I haven't been there recently, but looking on Cobra Country, the one thing I've noticed is that ERA's often get painted with non-standard colors, but for $50,000-$70,000, one can maybe tolerate the non-standard color more.
Agreed. Many Shelbys come dressed in the 'blue uniform' of or near Guardsman. I think that's done to preserve resale which I think seems very important to Shelby owners.
In this case, I think black cherry may be beautiful unto itself but it does not enhance this car's character.
My ERA is 'blue'-but unlike any other, a custom mix. Not so much that I wanted to personalize it as I just got it to what I felt Cobras should look like. Though it's gone, I still get messages asking what color it is.
But if it were a CSX or K-car I'd have done the same thing.
That's just me.
Uhhh, ya mean, like, beige? Let me tell you, if I had a nickel for every time I had someone tell me "thank God it's not another red, yellow, or blue Cobra" I'd have enough dough to buy that goof ball Black Cherry car.
If you had a nickel for every time............you might have A nickel, but it would have been self-funded and ONLY after you had a session with this guy:
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Everybody's hung up on the color. Completely missing the fact that it's an eyelash away from 700HP on EFI. If Kroyer set it up right, it's as easy to start as a Honda and less temperamental.
At 120K I'd buy it, soda-blast that paint and get to wire finish and leave it. Really make the seller cry.
Then-run it's nuts off.
Chas - I'd bet that Kroyer is set up right.
Razerwire has been spruiking Kroyer engines for some time now:
I'm amazed that no-one around here or on the FeForum has jumped on the "Multi awarded Engine building" Kroyer Racing engine bandwagon. They certainly use all the high-end parts, so I'm also willing to bet they aren't cheap...
Standard parts include:
Aluminum Block & Heads,
Steel billet crankshaft.
Carrillo connecting rods.
JE forged pistons, etc... (custom)
T/D racing shaft rocker arm assembly.
A bunch of other custom & billet stuff.
Motec engine management
TWM 58mm IR fuel injection
Dry-sump oil system (optional)
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The color takes $20k off the price. Whoever called for it was obviously going through some sort of crisis at the time.
I take it you're speaking from experience?
How much does the "beige" take off yours?
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Uhhh, ya mean, like, beige? Let me tell you, if I had a nickel for every time I had someone tell me "thank God it's not another red, yellow, or blue Cobra" I'd have enough dough to buy that goof ball Black Cherry car.
Perhaps, the seller had similar thoughts every time someone proclaimed to him "thank God it's not another..."
I'm amazed that no-one around here or on the FeForum has jumped on the "Multi awarded Engine building" Kroyer Racing engine bandwagon.
Not many guys on either forum are budgeted for high-end parts and HP like that. Many builders on each forum can match the power produced for less cash, with lesser parts that better suit the applications.
You don't put a Kroyer in a half-ton pickup or donor-car Cobra.
A Kroyer is meant for a vintage-raced T/A car or tracked original Cobra. Like Bruce's 3170.
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Not many guys on either forum are budgeted for high-end parts and HP like that. Many builders on each forum can match the power produced for less cash, with lesser parts that better suit the applications.
You don't put a Kroyer in a half-ton pickup or donor-car Cobra.
A Kroyer is meant for a vintage-raced T/A car or tracked original Cobra. Like Bruce's 3170.
Fair point, so what of those who have forked out for a Roush
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I take it you're speaking from experience?
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How much does the "beige" take off yours?
...
Perhaps, the seller had similar thoughts..."
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You and this vendor seemingly have much in common
Well, no... on all points. The name of my color, "arizona beige," is a little misleading. When I told both Peter at ERA, and Walt at Connecticut Custom, that I was painting the car beige, their jaws both dropped. Walt even said "look Pat, I'll paint it purple with pink polka dots if you pay me to, just think it over some more before making a final decision." But when it came out of the spray booth, Walt said "that's not beige, that's silver, kinda..." and Peter said, "no, that's not silver, that's more of a pewter, with a tint...." Both agreed, however, that whatever it was, it was not "beige." And both absolutely loved it. Of course, I knew it would go that way -- the color is subtle, neutral, and not the least bit overpowering. It has an elegant, strong hue, that is naturally highlighted by the black stripes and accents. Now, on the other hand, "black cherry" is a whole different kettle of fish.... But, on the other hand, it's not red, yellow, or blue -- it's more along the lines of "purple with pink polka dots." All I can guess is that the particular color of that car meant something special to the owner... and, frankly, that's his business. But, if I was in the market for that car, I'd have to factor in the cost of blasting off that color and replacing it with something else... like beige.
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