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Old 04-02-2006, 06:53 PM
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I would not put a ford engine in a corvett or would I put a chevy in a cobra. If you want a chevy buy a corvett
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Old 04-02-2006, 06:55 PM
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First you must be able to afford a Cobra. I surely can't at this time....
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Old 04-02-2006, 07:31 PM
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The Chev LS1 will do just fine for my Cobra shaped Hot Rod. About the only Ford bits in the whole car are the door locks.

If you want be stick with the replica theme put a Ford in it. However they only came out with the 260 and 289 Windsors or the 427 428 FE motor. Putting a 351W or a 385 series motor in is about as correct as my LS1.

The original AC ace had quite a variety of engines before the ford V8 was wedged into it and the cobra badge stuck on. 6 cylinder engines from AC, Bristol and Ford have lurked under the shapely curves of the AC Ace. The original car hasn't seem to mind it's varied diet of engines over the years.

I'll judge each engine on it's own merrits and decide which one is best for my Car. There are a heap of engines which could qualify for the job of propelling a lightweight sports car along a twisty road at high speed all the while asaulting the senses with an antisocial exhaust note. I'm looking forward to seeing what one of our european brothers does when they get their hands on the BMW V10 from the M5 or a supercharged AMG Mercedes V12.

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If you want be stick with the replica theme put a Ford in it. However they only came out with the 260 and 289 Windsors or the 427 428 FE motor. Putting a 351W or a 385 series motor in is about as correct as my LS1.
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seeing what one of our european brothers does when they get their hands on the BMW V10 from the M5 or a supercharged AMG Mercedes V12.
Well said that man! This Ford/Chevy debate really makes computer nurds sound interesting by comparison!

One of the guys on the UK forum has a BMW V8 Cobra complete with paddle-shift gearbox and one of the Dutch guys is building one with a V12 BMW.
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A friend of mine has an aquantance building a Porshe, 911(I believe), with an all aluminum SBC. The pics are something else. Can't wait to hear about it's performance. I'm sure the Porshe guys are all gonna cry foul
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The Chev LS1 will do just fine for my Cobra shaped Hot Rod. About the only Ford bits in the whole car are the door locks.

If you want be stick with the replica theme put a Ford in it. However they only came out with the 260 and 289 Windsors or the 427 428 FE motor. Putting a 351W or a 385 series motor in is about as correct as my LS1.

The original AC ace had quite a variety of engines before the ford V8 was wedged into it and the cobra badge stuck on. 6 cylinder engines from AC, Bristol and Ford have lurked under the shapely curves of the AC Ace. The original car hasn't seem to mind it's varied diet of engines over the years.

I'll judge each engine on it's own merrits and decide which one is best for my Car. There are a heap of engines which could qualify for the job of propelling a lightweight sports car along a twisty road at high speed all the while asaulting the senses with an antisocial exhaust note. I'm looking forward to seeing what one of our european brothers does when they get their hands on the BMW V10 from the M5 or a supercharged AMG Mercedes V12.

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G'day Mike!!!

Well, it's late (00.15 hrs), I'm tired & bored and I can't help but reach for the wooden spoon and do some stirring.

In Oz we are plagued by burocrats that keep changing the emmission regs which force us cobra builders into corners. The old faihful windsor is almost no more. It's since been replaced by the modular 5.4 ltr. Now the 5.4 DOHC is a squeeze but it just fits: I've seen two examples. The LS1/2 is a good alternative fit. Some Cobras in Oz even use the Lexus V8 that subsequently been blown; makes for an impressive performer.

Honestly, who cares?

Only the owner!

Sometimes I think some people all too often get caught up in the club mentality of bagging other peoples cobras. Be it the quality of the build, the motor, choice of wheels etc etc. It dissappoints me when I see it as it's often not justified and frankly highlights the critic's failings. I know there will be some aspects of my build that will not be to everyones taste. Stuff them. Only my opinion counts

Now for the stirring!!

In Oz, LS1 cobras are known as dark siders (in reference to the dark side on Star Wars). Aussie Mike, aka Lord Vader, leads the Empire. But I predict, no sorry, it's Mike's destiny to change back the light side (Ford) just as his namesake did in episode 6. If you don't believe me I think he still has a link to the dark siders web site below his signature.
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Gawd uncle Al, your missus kicks you outta bed, and you're not getting any so you come here to vent your anger.

And you are exactly right....who cares what folks put in as engines. Even this dyed in the wool "FORD" fella has entertained "THAT" other engine...and still might.

By way of keeping folks up to date on the Windsor thing in Queensland. Some folks have had some very interesting conversations with the authorities, with some very interesting advice being received.

If I have interpreted that advice correctly, it boils down to this. The Queensland authorities don't give a bugga how big the engine is, they don't care who makes the engine, and they don't care how old the engine is. All they care about is "That part of the EPA rules that they( the state authorities) elect to enforce" and for the ICV builder to PROVE his car complies.

To make a long story short. One can use a windsor and you can run an FE if you want. You just have to prove the engine complies with a level of emissions that the STATE desires. ( thats the hard bit)

And...the state has advised that they have control over the "standard" of EPA rules they will enforce.

And that's the tough bit..we don't have testing facilities.......yet. .... and the authorities know that.

However, give the authorities some credit, they are in heavy discussions with a company here in Brisbane to invest about $A500,000.00 for a IM240 testing facility.

Here is a short basic description of the test.
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/cycles/im240.html

There are, in essence, three things that an engine must have to past this test.

Functioning O2 sensor
Fuel control with no misfires; and,
An 80% efficient catalytic converter.

If you have these you can and will pass given a good state of tune.

http://www.epa.state.il.us/air/vim/seminars/im240.html

If your engine is in good state of repair, If the ECU (fuel/timing) control is properly tuned, and your cats are reasonably young, you CAN pass with the engine you choose.

Now, the remaining problem is "What standard are the State Authorities going to insist we meet?.

That question has been answered by the Authorities here by advising those involved in the discussions to " Why don't you get all the interested parties together..not just the Cobra club". Get the june buggy fellas, get the westfield replica fellas, the custom car clubs etc etc and then come see us as a group and we can then discuss to what level of control we will enforce for the ICV builders." (ala the hot rod fellas)

So....in other words....build any engine you want. Get it thru an IM240 test and you can register it here in Queensland.

Wish it was as easy as it is to type it.
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Gawd uncle Al, your missus kicks you outta bed, and you're not getting any so you come here to vent your anger.

So....in other words....build any engine you want. Get it thru an IM240 test and you can register it here in Queensland.

Wish it was as easy as it is to type it.

G'day Great Ungle (?) Les!

roflmao Mrs NASSTY had a giggle too! She says 'ello to you too.

At least things seem to be heading in a favourable direction for you Qlder guys. From what I know, having O2 sensors, and a non misfiring ecu should be easy to do and hell the cats will do most of the work anyway. Most factory late model ecu's are now repreogrammable anyway (eg ls1 edit, Boss edit, au edit (EEC5)) My build needs to have an at idle smog test (donor production engine) and I know that the cats basically do all the work. It sounds as though the Qld burocrats are suggesting a model thats reasonably fair for everyone. If this model works out then us mexicans will need to jump on the band wagon as well.

btw I sent you an email on Saturday

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Yeppers...got your PM mate....all sounds great....I'll answer later.

As you say, with cats and the ECU doin it's job bouncing off the O2 sensors will keep most things clean.

I just hope that those in office do follow the conversations to an end and take the advice of the authorities by collectively getting all ICV interests together.

There is a simple sequential EFI system for windsors here:

http://www.mass-floefi.com/mass-flo.html

Even uses the Ford ECU...and even looks at home under the hood of a cobra.

Cheers Al.
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