Ryan Martens - Regina CR II

[Alfa02]

I agree, with both of you (twobjshelbys, and rbgray1) Your right Tony, Ryan Martens have done nothing but damage,(Ask HighPlainsDrifter, he's just the latest) to the Classic Roadster name, in which I don't think it will ever recover from. And yes, Rob, we need to get the molds, etc. into someone's hands that can build the company into it's formal self. Any idea's Rob, how we could do this??? Cheers Tom.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by Alfa02

I agree, with both of you (twobjshelbys, and rbgray1) Your right Tony, Ryan Martens have done nothing but damage,(Ask HighPlainsDrifter, he's just the latest) to the Classic Roadster name, in which I don't think it will ever recover from. And yes, Rob, we need to get the molds, etc. into someone's hands that can build the company into it's formal self. Any idea's Rob, how we could do this??? Cheers Tom.

Perhaps the best solution is to get the moulds (Canadian spelling) / molds into the hands of a qualified / experienced fiberglass manufacturer. The manufacturer could either own the moulds / molds or use them under license from Ryan Martens. Any licensing / manufacturing agreement could easily define who has rights to sell them to which customers (e.g. auto body shops, fabricators, end users / Cobra owners, etc.).

While selling the moulds / molds may provide valuable cash to Ryan, he may want more $$ for them than someone is prepared to pay. Regardless, he may want to retain ownership (for whatever reason) and therefore not be interested in selling them.

Obviously he doesn't need to own the moulds / molds or even fabricate the body parts to build cars - he only needs access to the manufactured components. CR III may be far more successful by outsourcing body and frame manufacturing and focusing on assembling cars and servicing customers (and I don't mean how a stud horse services a mare... LOL).

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Alfa02

I agree, with both of you (twobjshelbys, and rbgray1) Your right Tony, Ryan Martens have done nothing but damage,(Ask HighPlainsDrifter, he's just the latest) to the Classic Roadster name, in which I don't think it will ever recover from. And yes, Rob, we need to get the molds, etc. into someone's hands that can build the company into it's formal self. Any idea's Rob, how we could do this??? Cheers Tom.

It's really hopeless, as Ryan found out there is no money here. I will reiterate: Make a business plan that shows a profit. How many have tried and succeeded??? Anyone that gets these molds with the intent of going into production will quickly figure it out and will become the next one being reported here. The market for Cobras is saturated and there are two ways a saturated market reacts: 1. Acquision/merger, often the weaker simply being put out of business or 2. Bankruptcy and disappearing of the weakest. The latter certainly applies here.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

It's really hopeless, as Ryan found out there is no money here. I will reiterate: Make a business plan that shows a profit. How many have tried and succeeded??? Anyone that gets these molds with the intent of going into production will quickly figure it out and will become the next one being reported here. The market for Cobras is saturated and there are two ways a saturated market reacts: 1. Acquision/merger, often the weaker simply being put out of business or 2. Bankruptcy and disappearing of the weakest. The latter certainly applies here.

I don't disagree, especially with the current state of the market. There are likely few who will seek out a kit or car from an unknown entity when there are other options from manufacturers with a long history - and stable financials.

Worth noting, however, is that when it comes to CR there may well be a bigger market for replacement parts than for complete cars or kits.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

Worth noting, however, is that when it comes to CR there may well be a bigger market for replacement parts than for complete cars or kits.

It is possible to be able to pull off a business for made-to-order parts (with a reasonable down payment, balance on delivery) as a "hobby business". Again, it would depend on the cost of entry which knowing the current owner, is likely to be higher than reasonable time-to-profitability thresholds.