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Old 11-05-2018, 01:03 PM
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Exclamation Ryan Martens - Regina CR II

I spent a bit of time talking to Ryan about his company and he is truly trying to get everything resolved. The biggest problem he is experiencing is dealing with Transport Canada. Unlike the USA, Canada has its fingers into just about every aspect of his (and any) business. In order for him to do full kits or even partial kits, he has to have approval from the bureaucrats. It is a time and money consuming process but he is making progress. His next step is to get TC to approve a chassis after TC digitizing a real chassis and performing simulated crash testing. If he were doing this in the USA, he would have been shipping kits years ago. I don't mean this as an endorsement of him or his company but even though I am in the USA, my company has had to deal with the Canadian government and it is frustrating and costly to say the least. I hope he does get TC approval and can more forward. Classic Roadsters deserves to live again.
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He's a crook. Use search here and you'll find many horror stories. He's screwed so many people so many times that recovering his business is hopeless. Whether the brand survives is questionable given the goodwill that he has stolen from it.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:16 AM
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It's apparent to me that since Ryan has the original molds we should band together to try to get them into the hands of a group or someone willing to utilize them as his history is not very positive for his past business success.

Maybe we could figure out a way to get the molds into a management group as "crash parts" or replacement parts may be a long term problem for us all.
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:15 AM
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I agree, with both of you (twobjshelbys, and rbgray1) Your right Tony, Ryan Martens have done nothing but damage,(Ask HighPlainsDrifter, he's just the latest) to the Classic Roadster name, in which I don't think it will ever recover from. And yes, Rob, we need to get the molds, etc. into someone's hands that can build the company into it's formal self. Any idea's Rob, how we could do this??? Cheers Tom.
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Old 11-09-2018, 10:11 AM
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I agree, with both of you (twobjshelbys, and rbgray1) Your right Tony, Ryan Martens have done nothing but damage,(Ask HighPlainsDrifter, he's just the latest) to the Classic Roadster name, in which I don't think it will ever recover from. And yes, Rob, we need to get the molds, etc. into someone's hands that can build the company into it's formal self. Any idea's Rob, how we could do this??? Cheers Tom.
Perhaps the best solution is to get the moulds (Canadian spelling) / molds into the hands of a qualified / experienced fiberglass manufacturer. The manufacturer could either own the moulds / molds or use them under license from Ryan Martens. Any licensing / manufacturing agreement could easily define who has rights to sell them to which customers (e.g. auto body shops, fabricators, end users / Cobra owners, etc.).

While selling the moulds / molds may provide valuable cash to Ryan, he may want more $$ for them than someone is prepared to pay. Regardless, he may want to retain ownership (for whatever reason) and therefore not be interested in selling them.

Obviously he doesn't need to own the moulds / molds or even fabricate the body parts to build cars - he only needs access to the manufactured components. CR III may be far more successful by outsourcing body and frame manufacturing and focusing on assembling cars and servicing customers (and I don't mean how a stud horse services a mare... LOL).
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I agree, with both of you (twobjshelbys, and rbgray1) Your right Tony, Ryan Martens have done nothing but damage,(Ask HighPlainsDrifter, he's just the latest) to the Classic Roadster name, in which I don't think it will ever recover from. And yes, Rob, we need to get the molds, etc. into someone's hands that can build the company into it's formal self. Any idea's Rob, how we could do this??? Cheers Tom.
It's really hopeless, as Ryan found out there is no money here. I will reiterate: Make a business plan that shows a profit. How many have tried and succeeded??? Anyone that gets these molds with the intent of going into production will quickly figure it out and will become the next one being reported here. The market for Cobras is saturated and there are two ways a saturated market reacts: 1. Acquision/merger, often the weaker simply being put out of business or 2. Bankruptcy and disappearing of the weakest. The latter certainly applies here.
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It's really hopeless, as Ryan found out there is no money here. I will reiterate: Make a business plan that shows a profit. How many have tried and succeeded??? Anyone that gets these molds with the intent of going into production will quickly figure it out and will become the next one being reported here. The market for Cobras is saturated and there are two ways a saturated market reacts: 1. Acquision/merger, often the weaker simply being put out of business or 2. Bankruptcy and disappearing of the weakest. The latter certainly applies here.
I don't disagree, especially with the current state of the market. There are likely few who will seek out a kit or car from an unknown entity when there are other options from manufacturers with a long history - and stable financials.

Worth noting, however, is that when it comes to CR there may well be a bigger market for replacement parts than for complete cars or kits.
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Worth noting, however, is that when it comes to CR there may well be a bigger market for replacement parts than for complete cars or kits.
It is possible to be able to pull off a business for made-to-order parts (with a reasonable down payment, balance on delivery) as a "hobby business". Again, it would depend on the cost of entry which knowing the current owner, is likely to be higher than reasonable time-to-profitability thresholds.
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OMG Do not believe or trust Ryan Maertens. He is a scammer. He ripped off a member for $11k,

check out this link https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...s-j-mar-750402
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Check out member HighPlainsDrifter Last I heard Martens took him for 11K
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