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				05-23-2005, 08:34 PM
			
			
			
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						OK Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #139, Indigo blue, white stripes, KeithCraft 351W, 315 WHP, 17" Boyd Smoothies, dual roll bars, gunrack, assorted young females 
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 Fred and E. Wood 
 Bite me, sorry.
 
 I have the cancelled checks.
 
 I have been jerked around deluxe for over a year.
 
 I am not whining, icehole.
 
 Let's see, 10K mile warrranty on BDR roller.
 
 Cruel joke.
 
 Supposed 10K mile warranty on engine/drivetrain, another cruel joke.
 
 I have no documentation on any of the above, that makes me a proveable moron.
 
 God, I'm old enough to know better.
 
 And my $1000 vinyl top is...
 
 Somewhere.  And has been since December, '04.
 
 You wanna come play with me? PM me. I'll play with you.
 
 And send me a check.
 
 A big one.
 
 According to my mechaniciens, BDR #139 is one giant very expensive birth defect.
 
 It's mine.
 
 It's paid for.
 
 I have no "backup."
 
 None.
 
 I have had nightmares before, but I waited 35 years and paid $50K for this one.
 
 My "dream" is still ongoing.
 
 Learn from my mistakes, iceholes.
 
 I'm not whining, I am just totally pissed.
 
 Bite me.
 
 I'm off my favorite forum.
 
 UT
 
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				05-23-2005, 09:24 PM
			
			
			
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 uncltodd , you may be a nice guy, the salt of the earth, but you sir, are a phukin idiot 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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				05-23-2005, 09:28 PM
			
			
			
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						OK Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #139, Indigo blue, white stripes, KeithCraft 351W, 315 WHP, 17" Boyd Smoothies, dual roll bars, gunrack, assorted young females 
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 Dave, I appreciate new information... but
 Please don't repeat something I already know.
 
 UT
 
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				05-24-2005, 03:38 AM
			
			
			
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						PA Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC/331/5 forward 
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				 C'mon, Unk........ 
 Since you're as old as I am, you unnerstand the concept of..sh*t  happens. 
OK - sh*t did happen, and to you.  Go put a couple Dos Equis in your tank, look fondly on the pictures of all those fine young females that (for reasons only they can detail     ) cluster around you, and be aware life really IS good.
 
Even with a sorta-broke Cobra.  Damn, that's better than NO Cobra, don't you think?
 
Pump another $4 or 5K into it, bite a bullet knowing what you will have after this, chalk all up to experience (NEVER free), and take one of them honeys out for a nice cruise.
 
Like I said above, life really IS good, Unk.
 
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				05-24-2005, 05:35 AM
			
			
			
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		| Originally posted by ENTDOC 
 
 This has got to be one of the most discombobulated complaints I have ever read on any car forum. Sure,it seems you got a raw deal from your dealer.It sounds like you did not do much homework and now want to whine about it in hopes KC or some one else will step in and clean up your crap. At any rate it sound like the only person that can help you is yourself,so fix it and go drive your little blue car.  chuck
 |  Unc,
 
We all understand that you are frustrated, but ENTDOC and the others are right.  At some point you have to just move on, or as the Eagles sing, "Get over it".   
Hope you get things sorted out.
 
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				05-24-2005, 06:44 AM
			
			
			
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 Todd, 
 To help you from MAYBE repeating one of your past mistakes,here is a clue :
 
"Do Centerforce Clutches Require A Break In Period?
 
Yes. It is recommended to properly seat in the new pressure plate & disc assembly to assure good clutch performance. Centerforce recommends 450-500 miles of in town stop and go type of easy driving before applying full power. If your driving consists of mainly highway type use, the break in period should be longer than the 450-500 miles. If the break in period is not properly followed, clutch life and performance can be sacrificed.  "
 
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				05-24-2005, 10:03 AM
			
			
			
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 Todd,  good luck with the car and try to enjoy it... 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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				05-24-2005, 02:19 PM
			
			
			
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 uncletoad,
 You missed the point:  Any warranty (even written) would be void after your excursion through the ditch and fence.  That type of "use" is not normal and you should expect many things to be wrong after that.  It may take months to find all the things that have had their lives shortened after your excursion.  Things like this cannot be covered by KCM, who, by the way, you have (apparently) never had any contract with - and they, of course, have no obligation to you...
 
 Maybe you got swindled (?), or maybe the things going wrong now were caused by your skilled control of your vehicle through a ditch and fence.  Think about it...
 
 Seems to me your an ill-tempered, spoiled baby boomer.  I don't like being called names.  You wanna call me "icehole"?  I guess thats your perogative, but I never called you any names until now.
 
 Have a nice day.
 
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				05-24-2005, 02:36 PM
			
			
			
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 After  watching  and   reading  this  whole  thread  a  couple  of  times  I  have  a  couple  of  questions  that  may  clear  up  the  air.............
 You  say  you  have   a  10k  mile  warranty  on  the  BDR  roller, WITH  WHOM,IS  IT  ON  PAPER,WHO  SIGNED  IT???????????
 
 You  say  you have  a  10k  warranty  on  the  power  train/driveline,again,WITH  WHOM,IS  IT  ON  PAPER??????????
 
 Who  did  you  pay  1k  for  a  top  to  that  you  have  never  received????????? Sounds  like  a  gaint  cluster  from  the  word  go,sorry,but  that's  what  your  whole  deal  looks  like  to  an  outsider  with the  info  provided  so  far.........
 
 I  understand  your  frustrations  and  seems  you  have  gotten  the  run-a-round  and  been  screwed  over,but  BY  WHOM,I'm  not  sure  who/whom  is  responsible  by  the  info  on  your  posts..........
 
 What  did  you  get  from  Boudy  on  paper  as  far  as  the  car  and  driveline/powertrain  go?????  What  did  you  get  from  KCP  on  paper  as  far  as  warranty  or  anything  else  goes?????  Who/whom  supplied  what,who/whom  installed  what  on  your  car??????????
 
 I  think  the  answer  lies  in  the  answers  to  these  questions..........
 
 BTW:  I  have  No  affiliation  to  KCP,but  did  buy  a  stroker  kit  from  KCR(only parts,assembled  the  motor  myself),I  have  never  had  any  dealings  with  Boudy,but  do  know  him  and  have  been  to  a  couple  of  "track"  events  where  we  were  both  participants  and  have  talked  to  him  before  and  looked  over  his  cars,again,NO  affiliation  to  Boudy  either........
 
 Just  trying  to  figure  out  who/whom  screwed you  over.............
 
 With  regards;
 
 David
 
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				05-24-2005, 05:02 PM
			
			
			
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 To all that have followed this thread.  I sure hate to see the kind of things that happened to uncltodd happen to anybody, no matter who/what is at fault.  But just as an observation, it seems like this has been a "people" problem more so than a "product" problem.  I'm sorry to find out that things didn't work out for Boudy, he seemed like a knowledgeable guy and always very helpful.  I had no business dealings with him, but recieved helpful info from him many times.  I'm also sorry to find that his departure as a dealer may have left some people out on a limb.  The real purpose to chime in here though is to say that I do have an interest here in the topic of BDR.  I own one purchased through a different dealer in my neck of the woods.  As far as the 10000 mile warranty goes, I don't know what you are talking about!  What I do know is that whether written or un-written, Backdraft Racing has been nothing short of delightful to deal with in regard to their roadster.  Leave Boudy or any BDR dealer out of this for a moment and just talk BDR, i.e. Reg and Frank Dodd and company, and you have excellent customer service and a group that stands behind their product.  There is no such thing as a perfect Kit/Replica, heck the originals weren't even close to perfect.  Backdraft has responded to anything that was manufacturer related and even to things that were not.  Backdraft makes a very nice car, and I would recommend one to anyone looking for a turn-key-minus or turn-key car.  As for turn-key though, just remember that Backdraft does not make drivelines and that is between you and the dealer/builder/person you are dealing with.  I only voice this because if someone were skimming this thread to quickly, they might think Backdraft is being blamed the way KCR has been accused.  (I have never heard anything bad about KCR either).Hey, Boudy had a tough time, made some bad decisions, went out of business.  I am sorry to see that, for him and his customers.  Again, I just want to say that Backdraft Racing is a great company to deal with and they have a really nice car.
 
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				05-28-2005, 12:29 PM
			
			
			
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 Well, this plain sucks.  UT never pissed on any of you (those that are currently pissing on UT), and some of you have helped make this personal.  Right or wrong, UT had very specific people in mind.  Seems to me, some of those folks replied.  And the one at the center who has apparently left town (save for one guy in here who apparently knows where he is).
 UT, my suggestion is you get a lawyer.  Some of your "friends" in here are really not your friends after all.
 
 The rest of you, lay the F**K off, lest you find yourself in the same predicament.  Least we can do is help hime find a solution (thanks Jamo!!)
 
 Mike
 
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				05-28-2005, 12:55 PM
			
			
			
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 I'm going to move this over to the Consumer Watch forum as it is not particularly clear who the responsible party(ies) is/are.  
I'm also going to close the thread.  Mike's response is a good note to do that on, and if Uncletodd develops further info, he can start a new thread.
 
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				05-28-2005, 01:19 PM
			
			
			
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 I understand and respect that...but the piling is too much.
 Mike
 
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				05-28-2005, 01:22 PM
			
			
			
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 Mike 
You misunderstand...I agree with you.  That's why I'm closing it...if this damn dialup would get its butt in gear! 
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