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Old 03-21-2010, 03:24 AM
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OK, an update. 03-21-2010 -- I finally got the 428 in the engine run stand and tried to fire it up. The original iron boat anchor heads were returned to the vendor long ago.

I installed a set of Edelbrock Performer RPM cylinder heads, and matching intake. I wanted this to look like a stock ford ( of sorts) so I took the extra step of milling off the edelbrock script on the intake and painting it blue.

Ignition; Summit has a great little distributor with a gear that is good for roller or iron use.

what I am having problems with now is the rocker arm spacing , position and geometry.

I bought a set of smith bros push rods to go with my Comp cams Roller FE rockers, however they -the rockers- the end girdles do not fit under the "COBRA -LEMANS" cast aluminum valve covers. in addition edelbrock performer RPM heads move the valve positions in such a way that the stock comp cams roller rockers setup will not readily align with the pushrods and valve stem tips.

Not to mention the push-rod clearance work I had to do to the intake. add this to the problem where a few of the adjuster nuts on the roller rockers were not threaded all the way, and backed off during run in. (will put up pic of inside of adjuster nut. )

When the nut backed off it allowed the pushrod to gall the bottom end of the rocker(s)

More news when it happens. -- on the phone with Comp Cams monday.

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PANAVIA OK here goes.
EAsy stuff first, Valve covers hitting the rocker ends. If you like the valve cover you have, you are going to have to mill or grind the end supports to clear the valve covers. If you don't want to do this, one of the guys here sells spacers that bolt between the head and valve cover. Just need a second set of gaskets and it gives about 3/4" of height.
Rockers and pushrods, the camshaft is a little big with over .600" lift. You are going to need a dremel tool to grind the area behind where the adjuster rides. You want about .030" clearance on full lift of the pushrod to the rocker edge. You also need to remember that the motor is a living thing and expands when hot and scrinks when cold. Don't go crazy on this modification. Remove as little material as possible for the clearance. Min. of .080" orifaces in the head for controlling oil to the rockers. This oil also cools the valve spring which produce alot of heat too. I doubt that you ar going to be able to center on the rockers on the valve ends with interferance of the intake manifold. The important thing is to have clearance of the pushrod through full movement from the intake. As long as the rocker wheel is in the center of the valve stem this is OK. It may be a little off to the right or left on the valve. Over time this may wear out the guide or valve and need to be repaired or replaced.
For the adjuster on the rockers I would tell you to buy the valve adjuster tool from LSM Nice tool that turns both the adjust and a torque wrench to lock it off and not over tighten the nut. Look under LSM PRODUCTS.
1 Question How did you order the pushrods if you didn't have the camshaft and rockers on the motor? It sound like you could also have the the wrong length. If too long you would have the pushrod hitting the rocker on the inside too. If too short too many threads sticking out of the rocker at the bottom. Some where in this forum is the correct setup for rockers and how you want them to stay centered on the valve stem if you have already not done this. I don't know if the block was machined square on the cylinders. They could have removed from .005-.020" to get a new flat clean surface. This will knock off the corrrect length. Recheck your build, if unsure go back to the beginning and recheck to make sure that everything is square. Intake to heads, heads to block, intake clearance on the block and so on. .020" doesn't sound like alot, but it could cause the pushrods to hit the rocker with out any modifications. Been through this may self with double order of pushrods on my motor. The nut on the adjust pushrod came loose and knocked off the roller rocker from staying in the center of the valve stem. Good luck. I think Tom Lucas sell valve spacers but not sure. Google it. Rick L.

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Rick has given you great information and all I can add is this. With those valve covers, the rockers should not be hitting ?

I have had them on my 428 for years with no issue. I do have a pair of chrome "Pent Roof" valve covers that have extra clearance, that I could sell you if needed. They also have the cobra badge on them.
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