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Old 01-24-2012, 10:31 AM
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:07 AM
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Don't worry about Mr. Muck, he's sold a ton of cars for me over the years. I suppose I should buy him a beer.
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Decline in general courtesy, let's see, we are all getting older, the economy sucks, Washington sucks, the only going good in this country is APple!!!!!!
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:51 PM
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Decline in general courtesy, let's see, we are all getting older, the economy sucks, Washington sucks, the only going good in this country is APple!!!!!!
Several people have commented that I have become not only kinder, but gentler as well, showing increased tolerance and courtesy to others while embracing contrary viewpoints, some of which lack any redeeming value whatsoever.
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I think Jay had/has an observation that many of us have about the GT40. They're not waterproof tight product, rearward vision is limited, they're hot inside even with the A/C on and they feel claustrophobic to some, like me. This isn't new news.
Even though I love my SPF GT40 I have to agree with you. Some people don't like the limitations you noted. I try to avoid rain and have not enjoyed driving it in rain. The A/C is just adequate and the rear vision is limited, but having a Lotus Europa for a long time it suited me. The cockpit is spacious compared to a Europa, but some just don't like the low feel. It definitely costs more than a Cobra, but you're getting a more exclusive car with expensive components like the transaxle. I think it outhandles a Cobra on track, but it's not as nimble as my Lotus. It attracts a lot of attention everywhere you go. So much so you get annoyed with idiots hanging out of their vehicles with cellphone cameras aimed at you. Is it superior to a Cobra? Different strokes for different folks!

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Old 01-24-2012, 09:11 PM
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Several people have commented that I have become not only kinder, but gentler as well, showing increased tolerance and courtesy to others while embracing contrary viewpoints, some of which lack any redeeming value whatsoever.
Yes, I can see that your kinder and gentler.

Swift, don't get me wrong, I've wanted a GT40 for a long time, and came close to buying a GT40 roller a couple years ago. But once you close the door, there's no convertible top, no sunroof and no windows to roll down.

I like the Ford GT's and for an extra $50,000 +/-, I think they're a better choice for many reasons.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:34 AM
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RodKnock is right. They do have A/C, but the windows are the in-place plexiglass/lexan with the access port. I could see getting a major case of claustrophobia. I'm told you can get regular roll-up windows if you want but then you wouldn't be able to vintage race. I'm sure Lance can answer all these questions and more.

I settled on the Ford GT because it met my wife's criteria for creature comforts. I will state that the new CSX9000 Daytona Coupes (slightly remodeled interior from the previous SPF version) and it's creature comfort index was quite high and it also had real trunk space. The FGT has none. I don't care what you call that little thing in front, it don't work.


A former FGT owner who lives near by swapped his red FGT for a SPF GT40. We did a spirited drive on the day I got mine and pretty much put them into hibernation for the winter. We will regroup in the spring. I don't believe I would fit in it - I think the steering wheel would hit my lap. This can be solved with lower seats but in this respect a GT40 pretty much has to be "fit" to the owner. He put the same engine I had in my Cobra - Roush 427R (he got carbs instead of DFI) and changed the mufflers and it sounds great! I wish I could get my FGT to sound like that.

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Anyone know the weight difference of Ford GT vs a SPF gt40 with lets say the roush 427?
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Anyone know the weight difference of Ford GT vs a SPF gt40 with lets say the roush 427?
Ford GT 3485lbs

SPFGT40 2400 for the Rolling Chassis...
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Anyone know the weight difference of Ford GT vs a SPF gt40 with lets say the roush 427?
I will check with my friend. He has that config. Gonna be a lot lighter, comparable to a Cobra.
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Ford GT 3485lbs

SPFGT40 2400 for the Rolling Chassis...
2400 to 2500 all-up with a ZF and an alloy headed engine. There is not a huge difference FE to Windsor (50 # or so). The roller is around 1700 lbs.
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Yes, I can see that your kinder and gentler.

Swift, don't get me wrong, I've wanted a GT40 for a long time, and came close to buying a GT40 roller a couple years ago. But once you close the door, there's no convertible top, no sunroof and no windows to roll down.

I like the Ford GT's and for an extra $50,000 +/-, I think they're a better choice for many reasons.
That means I can buy a spf gt40 and with the $50,000 left over buy a very nice used spf cobra, a 2 for 1, I would take a gt40 and a cobra all day long, over just a gt.
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Eh, what's $50,000. Give or take.

Plus, they don't make the FGT's anymore.
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Sorry, it's a big investment and an order takes longer to build then those other companies can stay in business and/or good standing. I'd never suggest one in kit form due to complexity and number of parts subject to outrageous back orders.

My opinion only from watching that market closely for 5 years.
Now that's funny Jay!

30 week lead.

Established in 1984.

TS40 in continuous production since 1989.

Removable door tops for the claustrophobic among us.

Three chassis types available, steel spaceframe, ally composite monocoque, carbon composite monocoque.

When all the others have long since stopped making GT40 replicas, we will still be quietly doing what we do...building TS40's

Best regards and looking forward to a beer with you and Rick at Carlisle.

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They are very different cars to be sure. At least in my case, the cobra feels like a luxury car as compared to the GT. Much more supple suspension and certainly you have more elbow room. Now, the GT could be set up differently, but I appreciate the purpose of the car as it is. Storage in a GT is minimal to be sure....the passenger seat is often full of the incidentals instead of a human. I drive and enjoy both but in different ways.
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