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Old 07-09-2008, 05:24 AM
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Actually I started with Microsoft movie maker that comes free with windows. It seemed OK at first, but then I remember that it did a couple of things that I wanted to do really, really poorly. I don't remember exactly what it was at the time, but I wanted to find something better and figured there must be a good free program out there, so I started to look at the open source stuff and wasted a bunch of time. There might be something good out there for free, but I didn't find it.

I assume you have PCs, so it does make sense to try the free Microsoft program first. Also Sony and Adobe offered something like a one month free trial license for their programs. I tried the Sony program and liked it. I found a deal with a rebate at the time, and bought the Sony program for around $90 after the trial period was over.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:26 AM
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David.....Alcoa must be aware of your project

" BILLET ALUMINUM CHASSIS! "
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" We go through about 1 ton/week! "

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Alcoa Inc. shares rose almost 6% in late trades on Tuesday , thanks to price hikes and " increased demand. "
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:19 AM
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1ntCobra,

At less than 100 bucks, maybe I shouldn't mess with the cheap stuff. Thanks for the input!

Don,

We do use a lot of aluminum around here. Today alone we will burn up over 1000 pounds.

Dean,

I will certainly put that on my list!

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Since I'm scratch building and bent all the hoops-hinges, hood, trunk, doors, birdcage by hand, I'd really like to see you do these hoops on your machine- especially the door hoops. Do these pieces create a fairly complex programming challenge or is the machine programming intuitive enough that you can describe shapes easily? Or, do you just do it like we do, a corner at a time and weld the pieces together.... (actually, I just did that on the trunk hoop)

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:26 PM
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I'll post a vid. We are actually bending the doors right now.

You certainly can bend all the single arcs separately and then weld them together into a 3D structure. The original car, however, was not done that way. Even though in Poland we bend the tubes by hand, we don't do it that way either. We have enough experience to know where to bend the tubes all in one piece. Of course, with machines like this hand-bending days are numbered across the planet. It just costs too much to train a worker who is skilled enough to do these sorts of things. Also, a CNC machine will ALWAYS make a nicer piece than even the most skilled worker.

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I anxiously await this video. I'd love to see how close to the right size you can get on door frames. Are you going to do seat frames too?

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:39 PM
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I anxiously await this video. I'd love to see how close to the right size you can get on door frames. Are you going to do seat frames too?
If everything else is an indication...they will be perfect. I have been really happy with the engineering, design, and execution all the way from concept, CAD, CAM, through final part.

The other tubes we have made are extremely good.

Yes, we will be making seats as well, but not for at least 2 months (until we can deliver this car).

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:40 PM
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I am really liking these videos! If a picture is worth a 1000 words, then a video is worth 1000 books!

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:33 PM
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Here is a vid of a dry run we are doing right now for the doors. It is kinda cool to watch the machine run. I will post one with tube actually bending shortly.

We tried all morning to get the Microsoft version of the video editor to work and threw our hands up. We down loaded the trial version of the Sony Vegas and I am IMPRESSED! Good stuff. Worked right out of the box...errrrr computer.

We will have some more nice vids soon.

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Since I'm scratch building and bent all the hoops-hinges, hood, trunk, doors, birdcage by hand, I'd really like to see you do these hoops on your machine- especially the door hoops. Do these pieces create a fairly complex programming challenge or is the machine programming intuitive enough that you can describe shapes easily? Or, do you just do it like we do, a corner at a time and weld the pieces together.... (actually, I just did that on the trunk hoop)

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Congrats on making your own car! That is a ton of work...(I know).

The programming is pretty easy. What is difficult is getting the proper CAD model so you have accurate measurements. We bend all tubes in one piece that we can.

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The pictures are amazing and now these videos! They are fantastic. David thank you for taking the time you have invested in this thread.

I could watch someone pushing a broom around the shop floor and I'm not kidding.

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Old 07-10-2008, 03:17 PM
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The pictures are amazing and now these videos! They are fantastic. David thank you for taking the time you have invested in this thread.

I could watch someone pushing a broom around the shop floor and I'm not kidding.

Marshall S.
From the looks of the earlier picture with Joe, our desks do need some cleaning! I did clean them up after a few emails...

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Old 07-10-2008, 04:59 PM
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I could watch someone pushing a broom around the shop floor and I'm not kidding.

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Ask and ye shall receive.

I just told Joe to go and film the Janitor.

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I think that is the first time I have ever seen a broom in my brothers hands.
I didn't think he knew how to use a broom.
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I didn't see much debris being pushed around there - was he hamming it
up for the camera? My bet is that you keep that place pretty darn clean.
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:58 PM
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I think that is the first time I have ever seen a broom in my brothers hands.
I didn't think he knew how to use a broom.
All I gotta say is I took some pictures today of an engine...

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[quote=David Kirkham;860027]Ask and ye shall receive.

I just told Joe to go and film the Janitor.

I throughly enjoyed all 84 seconds of that clip, twice.
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I throughly enjoyed all 84 seconds of that clip, twice.
Anything else you would like to see?

(We will do a running shot of the car once the body is on).

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"Thanks for watching!"? "Thanks for watching!"? Are you crazy??? That's like saying "Thank you for letting me give you a $1,000!!!" We are breaking out the popcorn & drinks and muting the T.V.! Quentin Tarantino has nothing on you!
THANK YOU for sharing.
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:07 PM
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"Thanks for watching!"? "Thanks for watching!"? Are you crazy??? That's like saying "Thank you for letting me give you a $1,000!!!" We are breaking out the popcorn & drinks and muting the T.V.! Quentin Tarantino has nothing on you!
THANK YOU for sharing.
You are too kind. Just bumbling along here with the camera. I will post more vid today. We had a slight set-back...but we can't be held down for too long.

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