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Old 07-10-2008, 01:28 AM
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The front of the valve cover being in line with the front of the vent cutout...same alignment as the Butler/Arntz.

Mid-engined.
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Great stuff David...you guys are leagues above every other manufacturer.
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:11 PM
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Great stuff David...you guys are leagues above every other manufacturer.


I still laugh when I see your post!

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Old 07-10-2008, 02:09 PM
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The front of the valve cover being in line with the front of the vent cutout...same alignment as the Butler/Arntz.

Mid-engined.
Maybe you could take it out and autocross it and tell me if it is as good as your old Butler.

I think this one is about as "mid-engined" as it gets with the engine still in the front.

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If you take the definition that the engine has to between the front and rear axles, then I would think that all Cobras could be considered mid-engined, much like current Corvettes, Vipers and even my RX-7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-engine_design

Other web searches don't seem to consider front-mid-engined cars as true mid-engined though.

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Old 07-10-2008, 03:19 PM
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If you take the definition that the engine has to between the front and rear axles, then I would think that all Cobras could be considered mid-engined, much like current Corvettes, Vipers and even my RX-7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-engine_design

Other web searches don't seem to consider front-mid-engined cars as true mid-engined though.
The motor between the axles is certainly the definition we use! This motor sits just a little more "mid" than most cars.

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Old 07-11-2008, 08:52 AM
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That's all I'd post if I did that...

I'm really bad at following directions. Just ask Jamo.

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That's all I'd post if I did that...

I'm really bad at following directions. Just ask Jamo.

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Oh, the tales I could tell...
OK, how much to keep you quiet...

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Here is a video of us fitting the front cockpit tube to the body. Most people don't realize how extremely difficult it is to mount an aluminum body. I try to explain it to people that mounting the body is actually much harder than taking a flat sheet of aluminum and turning it into the body in the first place.

Here I will go through the steps of fitting a body to a chassis for the first time. After the first time, it is a lot easier (but still extremely difficult) to mount the body. The first time you have to pay very close attention to the 3D nature of the body and make sure you mount it on correctly AND STRAIGHT! I have seen a LOT of exceptionally poor aluminum body mounting jobs. I have seen exquisite workmanship literally destroyed by people who thought they knew what they were doing.

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Old 07-11-2008, 11:57 AM
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Here we are actually mounting the body onto the chassis. It is not permanent, but we are getting there. We rivet (or cleco) the body on once we get the measurements correct because clamps can slip...

Then, I promise, you will have a very bad day.

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Old 07-11-2008, 08:00 PM
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Here is our CNC tube bender with the simulation page opened up. We simulate the bends before we bend them. That helps to keep the scrap pile to a minimum. The simulation is not perfect, but it sure helps.

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And another screen shot of the CNC tube bending simulation.

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Old 07-11-2008, 08:18 PM
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Notice the really clean, tight fit on the tube.

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That tube fits so well it is held on entirely by friction.

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Old 07-11-2008, 09:21 PM
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Here we are contemplating how to mount the front clip.

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Great work.
The real question is this: Is David (Dr. Billet) & Company-- reinventing a simple Cobra Kit car or are they creating one of the finest pieces of art I have ever seen? (Yes, I have seen alot) It is almost a shame to put a body on it!
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Great work.
The real question is this: Is David (Dr. Billet) & Company-- reinventing a simple Cobra Kit car or are they creating one of the finest pieces of art I have ever seen? (Yes, I have seen alot) It is almost a shame to put a body on it!
The project is planned as a one-off. I think it would be prohibitively expensive to sell these as a "normal" kit.

Everyone who sees the car says it is a shame to put a body on it. I need to think of a way to make the body easily removable. Now, that will be a trick that will probably not be possible. But, as you can see, I love a challenge.

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