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Old 03-25-2014, 10:34 PM
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It baffles the imagination that a guy like Ned Scudder who he and a lot of people believe him to be the one that knows almost everything about each and every cobra. I'm talking about owned by then, owned by now, its history then and history now . I guess we could call him the cobra guru. He even wrote the new book !
I guess maybe not. Because I David Ciardullo have a great and true story about HOW, WHO, WHEN, and WHY CSX3301 became what it is today and because I am the only one who knows the full story of CSX3301 once again I am baffled that I was never asked to tell my story about how I acquired CSX3301...How It came to be the color it is today... and why etc. Well I think it needs to be told.
Well here I am always have been a car guy since I was old enough to know what a car is. Its the year 2000 and I am standing in my dispatch office loading concrete into my concrete trucks and I get a phone call from a Dr Ravi Shetti a Nero surgeon from great neck long island. He begins to tell me that he is building a senior citizens apartment complex in Amityville N.Y. home of the famous Amityville horror house. So his question to me is would I give him approximately 200,000 dollars worth of concrete for a trade against a car he has in his garage. With this question he invites me and my wife to dinner at his house in Great Neck with he and his wife who will be doing the Indian cooking witch was surprisingly delicious and after dinner we would look at the car that he was valuing at around 200,000 dollars. So my wife and I graciously except his invitation. We go to the house and after dinner he take me into the garage and there it is this beat up looking abused looking guardsmen blue with white stripe 427 cobra.
After he removes the boxes and stuff and more stuff from the paint that is beat to hell I start to inspect the cobra with the gauges in kilometers 10356about 6400 miles I smile and make the deal. 200,000 in concrete will be about 140,000 my cost nothing out of pocket. I bring the car to first body shop that I won't mention the name strips the car down to the bare aluminum using a cheese grader to scrape off the paint and a lot of the aluminum and then starts to completely cover the whole car in brown plastic. After pulling the car out of there as fast as I could I find out about Billy Andrews and H.R.E. motor cars who builds new continuation cobras for Carroll Shelby. I give Bill five large boxes of parts a engine, tranny , 4 wheels and a cobra body that looks like it was made of clay I leave it in his very capable hands .
I go home and start to do the research on my pile of junk I just left Bill. I find out the car was originally a under exhaust roadster no roll bar , no hood scoop , no side pipes and four skinny sunburst wheels in Wimbledon white no stripes. The car was pulled off the line at AC cars in England and handed over to the boys at FAV Ford Advanced Vehicle were it got side pipes, roll bar ,big halibrant wheels and tires, marcel headlamps and polished aluminum engine bay and polished trunk .
Bill starts to work his magic on my car. I tell him I want the car to be done in Wimbledon white with 1997 viper blue stripes. After I!!!!spent 120,000 dollars out of my pocket to restore the car one of the most beautiful cobra emerges from bills garage. Nothing like the sound off a cast iron big block cobra.
In 2005 I take CSX3301, CSX4007R and my 2005 ford gt #61off the assembly line all my cars are under HRE'S tent and Carroll Shelby and his wife Clowie walk in and we talk for two hours he signs CSX3301 glove box Carroll Shelby , almost falls in CSX4007R because the doors don't open and he loses his balance I had to catch him. That would not have been good (Shelby dies in CSX4007R signing and autograph). Then he climbs in the passenger seat of my ford Gt and signs It to my friend Dave. When he climbs into his golf cart and drives away after signing everything I had and more I realize that I forgot to have him put something on the glove box better than just Carroll Shelby. I unscrew the glove box door jump in my golf cart and chase him back to his trailer. I get out of my cart and he says to me did I forget something and I said no sir I would just like to ask you a favor above were you wrote your name could you please write (One of the rarest CSX3301) no questions asked he just signed it I shook his hand and got in my golf cart and drove away. One of the nicest people I have ever met. In 2007 I took CSX3301 to Barrett Jackson and sold one of the most beautiful cars I've ever owned for 850,000 dollars. The car is today just as perfect as I!!!!!!! had it built in 2001. I have lots of pics of me and Carroll hanging out shaking hands and signing all of my cars at lime rock park. If Clay the owner of CSX3301 ever wants to sell it ever I would buy it back in a heartbeat.
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You are listed in the registry as an owner and that you sent the car to HRE for restoration.
How is that being "screwed by Ned Scudder"?
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:53 AM
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csx 3301, looks stunning. Thanks for your story.
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:06 AM
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Good story. Shame about the (seemingly unfounded) rant about Ned, who has always been a valuable contributor to the forum.
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:39 AM
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If you have information on a car it should be volunteered to the registrar. It is not feasible or possible for one registrar to go looking and asking for information. Registrars first and most accurate records are factory and dealer records on paper. I have seen many updates and corrections to registries and they easily explain that as they are a work in process updated as information comes to light through the years. Your thread title and story are unrelated as far as I can see. If you have an issue with someone your story would seem far more valid if you had approached the person directly. I am less likely to believe anyone who thinks the internet is their voice and version of reality TV for entertainment of the peanut gallery. The unrelated title and story doesn't help either.
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Interesting. This is the third time that the OP has posted this exact rant and I still don't know what it has to do with Ned.

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/ac-c...right-ned.html

Mecum: CSX 3301

And of course:

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/long...d-scudder.html

There may be more but I got tired of looking. I'm with Mick, WTF does this story have to do with Ned?
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I really do fail to see where Ned Scudder wronged you. I read your story here, and the entry in the SAAC Cobra Registry, and I don't see any glaring errors or omissions. What is it exactly that you think Ned did to you?

If you don't submit your information to the Registrar, it likely does not get included in the Registry. I notice you have not submitted your information on your 2005 Ford GT to the SAAC Registrar (that's ME). Did you
submit any information on your 4000 Series to Kevin Rogers?

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Harsh title... frankly need more of an explanation or it will be deleted.

Further, three identical posts smacks of spam... not a good first set of posts here.
(I purged the one in AC Cobra forum as just misplaced.)

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Old 03-26-2014, 07:27 AM
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So let me get this straight.......you're mad at Ned and feel you have been "screwed" because he has not tracked you down, asked you to have coffee while he documents the story on how you and your concrete saved 3301 from certain oblivion and how you then perfectly restored it, complete with stripes it never had in " '97 Viper blue".

You say you are a car guy, yet, you traded for, dumped money into, turned around and sold for a profit in the space of 7 years, one of the most iconic cars of our time. Sounds like more of a business man's move then a "car guy".

That does not make you a bad guy(actually shows that you are pretty smart),but at the same time, I don't believe that type of ownership warrants Ned having to give you your own chapter in the registry.

The story is cool and interesting, but I am afraid Ned did not "screw" you in any way, shape, or form.

Just my opinion.
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It is difficult to take someone who does not have the intelligence to use spell checker seriously.
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Title should read Ned Scudder screwed by "NASTY427"
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I know that Ned had most of this info at the time it was needed because Bill Andrews spoke to him and gave him some of the story. I also remember writing Ned and giving him some info and told him to call me he never did. If you look at all the stories about CSX3301 it does say that I owned it at one time but that's it. It doe's not tell that fact that I owned the car for 6 years and drove it all the time. After being the one to restore it to it's present day condition and after spending a ton of money it should say a lot more than I owned it at one time. Maybe to most people I'm being picky but the car was the highest selling street car when I sold It and it's because of what I did with Carroll and what I spent with Billy,HRE to make that happen
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it's because of what I did with Carroll
Not sure I understand, you had Carroll sign something off the car?



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So you're upset that your part in the history of the car isn't more documented in the registry?
Kind of looks like self-serving ego rant to me.
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Yes he signed the glove box door while it was on the car when he left I unscrewed it from the car and had him sign the rest of it.
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Sorry guys but with these cars documentation is everything.If the story is wrong you don't think that's a problem? Maybe the new owner would like to know the real story.
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Yes he signed the glove box door while it was on the car when he left I unscrewed it from the car and had him sign the rest of it.
And you think that really adds to the cars providence?

Honestly?
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