Gun Control - Page 2

kanuck · #1 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:10 PM

"Since then, in Australia, the risk of dying by someone with a gun has halved"

There still are as many murders they just use hammers, knives, or what ever they can get there hands on. Here in this country hammers and blunt objects are still the number one weapon used in homicides, maybe they should ban hammers and candle sticks.

Dean

PS: If you think there are a lot of casualties now, try taking or guns away the death toll would be in the millions.

Tenrocca · #2 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kanuck

There still are as many murders they just use hammers, knives, or what ever they can get there hands on. Here in this country hammers and blunt objects are still the number one weapon used in homicides, maybe they should ban hammers and candle sticks.

Those 3 guys today really could have killed 14 people and wounded 20+ more with a candle stick....

There will always be murders, there will always be murderers. But allowing people with that intent access to the tools to do so so easily means that when they do lose it, more victims result.

DWRAT · #3 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenrocca

Those 3 guys today really could have killed 14 people and wounded 20+ more with a candle stick....

There will always be murders, there will always be murderers. But allowing people with that intent access to the tools to do so so easily means that when they do lose it, more victims result.

Just be happy you don't live in the USA, I know I'm happy you don't.

Tenrocca · #4 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DWRAT

Just be happy you don't live in the USA, I know I'm happy you don't.

Spent a lot of time in the USA and loved the place, but I still tell my kids every day we won the lottery of life by being born in Australia.

fordracing65 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenrocca

Spent a lot of time in the USA and loved the place, but I still tell my kids every day we won the lottery of life by being born in Australia.

I thought Australia is where England sent all their criminals...

sea2jet · #6 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dwrat

just be happy you don't live in the usa, i know i'm happy you don't.

amen....

joyridin' · #7 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:11 PM

700,000? There were approximately 200,000 guns sold in the USA on Black Friday alone!

kanuck · #8 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:16 PM

There are over 300 million guns in this country, that's more than the total population of this whole country.

Dean

I would have a Kirkham or even a 4000 series for what I have invested, oh well we all make our own choices.

kanuck · #9 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:24 PM

I am sad to see you don't get it, it is very simple the cities that have the highest murder rates are the ones with the strictest control. Simple as that.

Dean

Tenrocca · #10 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kanuck

I am sad to see you don't get it, it is very simple the cities that have the highest murder rates are the ones with the strictest control. Simple as that.

Dean

The whole world is sad that the good 'ol USA still don't get it.

joyridin' · #11 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenrocca

The whole world is sad that the good 'ol USA still don't get it.

No, the whole world is sad they don't have half of what the USA has. Criminals run the whole continent of Africa. ISIS controls part of the ME, and the part they don't is being over run by Al-Qaeda or other groups. The Chinese are in fear of their government because the average person cannot protect themselves.

Yeah...we get it. The rest of the world wants it to protect themselves from the evil that surrounds them.

cycleguy55 · #12 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kanuck

I am sad to see you don't get it, it is very simple the cities that have the highest murder rates are the ones with the strictest control. Simple as that.

Dean

Cause and effect: The murder rates aren't a result of the controls, the controls are a result of the murder rates.

Nobody is saying gun controls, by themselves, will solve the problem - they're only PART of the solution. The crime rates are the result of complex issues, and simplistic solutions (e.g. gun controls alone) will not solve the problem.

kanuck · #13 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 06:30 PM

They banned liquor and drugs how did that work out. I tell you what, if you don't want a gun and chose to turn yours in fine don't have one. I choose to have one and I have the right to have one. And they can try and take it away from my cold dead hands.

Dean

PS: You annoy me so I am going to go buy a Glock tomorrow just cause I can.

Tenrocca · #14 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 08:12 PM

Comparing yourself to 2nd and third world countries to prove a point?

I'm not trying to start a pissing match over which country is better than another. What I'm saying is that it is so obvious to the whole of the developed world that gun control or lack there of is a huge problem in the U.S......and as you as a whole are so insular you just can't see it.

Jaydee · #15 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 08:46 PM

Even if they had total gun control, it would be impossible to get rid of the millions of guns out there. The law can't even stop the illegal drugs.
JD

Tenrocca · #16 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaydee

Even if they had total gun control, it would be impossible to get rid of the millions of guns out there. The law can't even stop the illegal drugs.
JD

"200,000 guns sold on Black Friday". Thats 199,000 more than would have been sold if they could only be bought for a legitimate purpose. While I agree it would be difficult at the moment gun ownership in the US is completely out of control.

Chaplin · #17 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenrocca

"200,000 guns sold on Black Friday". Thats 199,000 more than would have been sold if they could only be bought for a legitimate purpose. While I agree it would be difficult at the moment gun ownership in the US is completely out of control.

And because you are so worldly, you know all about us and what our problems are/are not?

I don't even know what your above post is trying to convey. Are you suggesting that 199,000 people went through the federal background check and were approved to buy guns for illegitimate purposes? Yes, our federal government is in the habit of authorizing sales to individuals who should not by law have guns so said guns can be used for "illegitimate" purposes.

. On second thought, maybe I should give an exception for Fast and Furious, but I digress....

In any event, please do us all a favor and don't speak of things that you know nothing about. It only irritates us and make you look ignorant. Or if you insist on demostrating your ignorance, at least do so by prefacing it with "IMO", because we can't deny you your opinion no matter how ill informed it may be. After all, you know what they say about opinions and a$$holes, everyone's got one.

fordracing65 · #18 (**permalink**) 12-02-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenrocca

Comparing yourself to 2nd and third world countries to prove a point?

I'm not trying to start a pissing match over which country is better than another. What I'm saying is that it is so obvious to the whole of the developed world that gun control or lack there of is a huge problem in the U.S......and as you as a whole are so insular you just can't see it.

And my non restricted cobra exhaust is killing people also, should they ban my car... The USA is the best with all our guns and cobras, if I lived in Aussi my big block would be outlawed, that sucks in my opinion...

joyridin' · #19 (**permalink**) 12-03-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenrocca

Comparing yourself to 2nd and third world countries to prove a point?

I'm not trying to start a pissing match over which country is better than another. What I'm saying is that it is so obvious to the whole of the developed world that gun control or lack there of is a huge problem in the U.S......and as you as a whole are so insular you just can't see it.

I am not comparing our country to any 3rd world country. You have some comprehension skills. I am saying just about every citizen in a 3rd world country would love to live in the USA and have the guns we have to fight their tyrannical governments.

Maybe that is why the USA is still a free country and most other countries are not?

Tenrocca · #20 (**permalink**) 12-04-2015, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by joyridin'

I am not comparing our country to any 3rd world country. You have some comprehension skills. I am saying just about every citizen in a 3rd world country would love to live in the USA and have the guns we have to fight their tyrannical governments.

Maybe that is why the USA is still a free country and most other countries are not?

You actually are making a comparison between 3rd world countries and the US by saying just that. You should be making a like for like comparison with other first world countries like Australia or any other 1st world country that doesn't have a massive gun problem.

Id imagine most citizens of other 1st world countries would not like to live in the US, with gun and other violence being a significant reason behind that.

Feeling good about yourself by saying your conditions are the envy of some 3rd world country is like boasting about beating the under 6 team from the local blind school in a softball comp.