You Ebayers

[trularin]

What is up with this conditional feedback crap?

"I'll only leave feedback after you leave it for me."

WHAT? Was my money not good enough for positive feedback?
Was it the early arrival?

WHAT?????

I am so F@CKING sick of people that can not be honest. Look if you Forked it up live with it.

AHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh.......................

This rant has been brought to you by some a$$hole ebay seller.

[fsstnotch]

You alright tru?! haha

Guess ing someone left you some form of poor feedback because you left them poor feedback?

Since I got screwed on ebay... and paypal... I use them little as possible. Aparently it's ok to buy something on ebay from someone. Leave them positive feedback. Tell them how great the item is in emails. And then after having the item for 11 months... file for a refund on the grounds that "the item was not as described!" Worst part is that I would not have even known that the $575 was refunded if I hadn't logged into my paypal to pay for somehting. The item was returned to me after I argued with them about it. Even though it was junk because the buyer had taken it apart and lost parts. I was out my item and $575. Oh well... live and learn. I don't use paypal for anything if I can help it and rarely buy anything on ebay anymore.

[wtm442]

Tru
I'll send you some feedback. Just tell me where.

[bomelia]

Phookin ebay feedback. I hate it. Its designed such that the only thing you had better leave is pos feedback. I have argued over and over that sellers should leave feedback first. The whole system sucks. Its blackmail, pure and simple. When I leave feedback, I leave pos only and words that say the truth. Mostly, I just avoid it. I love buying on ebay, but I am careful.

Plus, ebay is taking anonymous feedback now. Take the time to answer that stuff honestly... it will not hurt you.

Mike

[Fast Farmer]

I use eBay a lot. I hate the feedback deal too.

I used to send postal money orders, but learned my lesson. They take too long to prove they were received and cashed, plus it costs extra to trace. Years ago I sent payment TWICE for an auction and still got nothing, because I responded to threats about getting a negative. People have very little recourse if someone abandons their eBay account and creates a new one. There used to be a thirty day time limit on complaining about non-performing eBay sellers... about the time it took you to know you were screwed after being strung along with e-mails.

I've had less trouble after I switched to Paypal, backed by a savings account that I only keep $100 in and feed when a larger purchase requires it. You can prove payment was sent. I haven't sold anything on eBay for a long time. When I used to sell more stuff, I never kept more than $100 as a Paypal balance.

TRULARIN
I think a buyer of an eBay item should post feedback first. That way the seller knows the item was received and the buyer is happy before posting feedback. If someone sends me an e-mail before the transaction is complete or soon after, requesting feedback, you can guarantee they queered that opportunity from me. These days, as long as I finally get my item, or a refund, I don't post a negative, or a neutral. It is a given that if you do, you are retaliated upon, even if the other party is completely in the wrong.

FSSTNOTCH
A refund after 11 months and a positive feedback is so wrong, on so many levels. I would think you could go after Paypal for an unauthorized withdrawal on a bank account, which Paypal in effect is. Didn't eBay buy Paypal? If I'm right, what a sweet way to make money from both ends.

Your eBay auction buyer wanted someone else to be responsible for his stupidity. It is the same logic that my ignorant neighbor used to take a large temporary outdoor pool back to Walmart and get his money back. He had filled it with high iron content water and over-shocked it with chemicals, turning the water blood red and staining the pool.... TWICE. Obviously the pool was defective.


I think eBay overall is pretty cool. It is like a National/International combination Auction and Garage sale. I find lots of cool stuff that is not available in my area, plus lots of great bargains! I have had many more positive experiences on eBay than negative ones.

Fast Farmer

[fsstnotch]

Well... actually what happened in my situation was that he filed his arguement through paypal and they informed him that it was too late to file through paypal but he had up to a year to file through his credit card. So, he contacted Visa and they refunded the money, in turn pulling the money from paypal, who pulled it from me. I filed a written complaint to both paypal and Visa and pretty much was told... "tough" The only thing they were willing to do for me is to freeze the money until he returns the product. At that time I could file a complaint if it was damaged or not as shipped. I got the item (in this case a double din car stereo from Japan) it was assembled but had a strange rattle to it. I installed it in my car and it wouldn't even power up. I uninstalled it and took it apart. One of the circuit boards was not bolted down anymore and was broken in 2. the screws that held it down weren't even in it. I tried soldering it to fix it but ended up just throwing it in the trash after visa told me they wouldn't do anything. I even sent them pictures and stuff. They didn't care at all.

A few months after that, a friends paypal account was hacked. he had no idea until his home bank which he didn't use very often excapt to save a littel cash from time to time, sent him overdraft notices. Paypal pretty much told him to take a hike on that too. He ended up filing a report with teh police and his bank had to fight paypal for the money back. They did have the guys name and an address which was used but I don't know if he was ever caught. the address was a few blocks from my friends house... yes, we thought about stopping by the house! haha

[427 S/O]

Just this morning I got a 'smart ass' email from a guy who purchased and received my roller rockers and push rods. He says one was junk (false) and there were no spacers. Then he ask what kind of feedback I wanted?????. I've sold of most my FE stuff so I won't be dealing with these jackasses.

eBay Motors: Ford FE 390-428 Roller Rockers and Push Rods (item 290204047917 end time Feb-11-08 09:34:47 PST)

[Ron61]

I have never dealt with e-bay or pay pal. Never trusted their security or the stuff they advertise. I know some people who have did well on e-bay and some who got royally screwed. None who got shafted ever recovered any of their money. Another thing that got me turned off on e-bay was a car that I saw on there for sale and the owner lived in Florida. I was on another car site later on that day and the same car was for sale by a different person who lived in New York.

Ron

[trularin]

I did most of my selling back when the ebayers were more honest and less of bite in the butt.

I have done a lot of purchasing to get some stuff, but I have found if I donate my stuff to the local schools, the kids makeout the best. We also donate to GoodWill and St. Vincints ( spelled that wrong ).

This person is amazing. I sent a postal money order. He says, I'll post positive when you post positive. SO..... I post positive and two months later, he has brain damage or something. I am just tired of that whole attitude.

I'm okay with ebay. It is a good place to get things when you do not have the money for brand new. They just need to even the playing field.

[mrmustang]

It's called extortion. I've yet to fall for it, been a victim of it in the past though and got two negative feedbacks from two separate end users for not playing the game their way. Forgetaboutit, move on to the next sale or purchase and leave the game players to themselves.

Bill S.

[1ntCobra]

I've had many good experiences on eBay and just 2 bad ones.

One bad one was buying a beta vcr (go ahead and laugh). It was damaged in shipping by the post office. I figured that since the seller insured the shipping, I could just walk into the post office with my eBay receipt and get the cash, so I could bid on a replacement. But nooooooo. The post office wanted me to get a repair estimate (does anyone fix 15 year old betas?), file paper work and hold onto the item & shipping box and try to act as an arbitrator between the seller and me. The post office wanted to put most of the blame on the seller for inadequate packing and pass the repair bill onto them. It seemed that the post office is convinced that people are trying to use eBay sales as a way of committing shipping insurance fraud. And they are willing to hold onto the items with the paper work for months, just to collect the names to see if the same shippers or buyers are up to something illegal.

However, I do suspect that the shipper could have packed the item better.

So it's not just eBay and Paypal that might give you problems. A U.S. Government agency, the post office, can stick it to you as well. I took it upon myself and managed to "fix" the beta vcr myself to get some stuff off some old tapes I wanted. However my original plan was to resell the beta after I was done with it, but it is obviously banged up and only partially working, so that plan went out the window too.

But I want to re-iterate. I have had many good experiences with eBay and Paypal.