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03-19-2006, 11:22 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Roanoke,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Lone Star Classics LS427, 428 CJ engine stroked to 464, 580hp/590tq at flywheel
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Thanks all!
Delampe - I am willing to try anything and everything. I will go pick up a new coil today. I agree the cheapest parts get changed first. This will be the last part in the ignition I have not changed or checked minus the box.
Warren - I am with you, I can't believe it jumped timing either for the same reason.
Jerry - I have read about the ionazation also. I will check into it.
Again thanks to all - I hope to get it worked out and pass on the verdict soon. These are the kind of things that drive me crazy!!!
Bruce
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03-19-2006, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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Has fuel in tank gone bad, or are filters getting plugged? Do you have the small OEM canister or bronze filters on each inlet of double pumper carb?
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03-19-2006, 01:51 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Roanoke,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Lone Star Classics LS427, 428 CJ engine stroked to 464, 580hp/590tq at flywheel
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Dlampe - you are the man!!!! Other than an ugly yellow Accel coil (they did not have the MSD) my cars is fixed.
This is why this forum is so great!!! I will be ordering a new MSD to get rid of the yellow.
Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruce
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03-19-2006, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Southeast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #375 427 S/C - 428FE - Toploader - 1968 AMX 390 Go Pack 4 Speed - My Daily Driver is a 2004 Crossfire
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Bruce:
What brand and model coil were you using, (the one that went bad)?
How old was it?
Funny how a coil can be the culprit, I was guessing that could be the problem as I was reading this thread. Coils tend to go bad slowly in my experience. Glad you got to the problem fixed!
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A car can massage organs which no masseur can reach. It is the one remedy for the disorders of the great sympathetic nervous system. Jean Cocteau 1889-1963, French Author, Filmmaker
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03-19-2006, 06:20 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Roanoke,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Lone Star Classics LS427, 428 CJ engine stroked to 464, 580hp/590tq at flywheel
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Art,
It was the standard 8202 Blaster 2 for MSD ignitions. Has 10,000 miles on it. I have never had a coil go bad on any car for 30 years! I must have gotten the one lemon - I hope?
Definately feels good to work through it!
Bruce
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03-19-2006, 07:46 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: centralia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B cobra (sold), Hurricane HMS1002 (sold), Kirkham 289 FIA, (sold) RCR GT 40(sold) SPF GT40 2122(sold) Hurricane HMS2002, (sold) RCR SLC (sold) GTR on the way!
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I am glad to hear that your car is fixed. You might want to order the MSD blaster2 high vibration coil. It is a black coil instead of the red one. I also moved my coil off of the engine and on to the inside fender to cut down on heat and vibration. So far no problems!
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03-19-2006, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: TACOMA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrision FE 427 so 2-4s
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M I have a complete Mallory system. I converted from an older HyFire IV box to an new HyFire VI with programable rev limiter.When I started the engine ran fine while warming up in the alley.I would start to drive the car away from home I could usually get about two miles or so away then it would all go to crap. It started missing and got worse. I'd turn aroud and start back. The engine would idle fine but getting the car rolling was terrible. The Mallory unit has a bypass plug that eliminates the box. It ran fine with the box eliminated. I returned the box (Still within the warranty ) and ordered a replacment that ran just fine.
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03-20-2006, 05:52 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #375 427 S/C - 428FE - Toploader - 1968 AMX 390 Go Pack 4 Speed - My Daily Driver is a 2004 Crossfire
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Bruce:
You may want to check you spark plug gaps to make sure that they are not excessive due to erosion. An eroded gap can put strain on the coil and this sometimes leads to coil failure.
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A car can massage organs which no masseur can reach. It is the one remedy for the disorders of the great sympathetic nervous system. Jean Cocteau 1889-1963, French Author, Filmmaker
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03-20-2006, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alexander,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B 427 Stroked Windsor TKO 600 w/3.50 posi 9"
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I'm with rblong, at this point it would be an easy thing to eliminate the fuel by getting a gas can and dropping a short piece of fuel line in. I have had water in the gas that seemed to separate to the top until I drove it and then would start causing problems when it was agitated by the movement.
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03-20-2006, 01:10 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Roanoke,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Lone Star Classics LS427, 428 CJ engine stroked to 464, 580hp/590tq at flywheel
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I will check plugs and such, since I was wondering if there was something that caused the failure. I also want to check the plug gap. MSD recommends .050 -.060 for up to 10.5/1 compression. I do not think I set the gap that wide when I installed new plugs about 600 miles ago.
I certainly learned alot about the MSD ignition during this process and want to thank everyone again. I will also have a spare "yellow" coil I will carry as soon as my new MSD coil arrives. This was the first coil I have ever lost, but I bet if I loose another I will recognize it pretty quick.
Also learned how to rebuild the distributor, test wires, test MSD box etc. It was a good experience all and all. Of course I can say that now that it is fixed!!!!!
Bruce
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