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With all due respect you should not generalize about any Cobra member's view of their car's value. I bought a mint well maintained SPF , Roush 427SR with 21k miles with many chrome/engine extras for just over $60k this past February. The prior owner had a 5inch 3-ring binder with the entire car build history, maintenance records and receipts. I felt it was a great value because other than normal maintenance, I get in and drive it with no worries or surprises. Maybe I am not the norm but many factors are included in valuing any car including lineage.
I also own 5 other gated classic sports cars including 2 Ferrari's and apply the same logic in valuing them. Desired gated sports cars with great lineage/history records will appreciate if well maintained in an authentic way.

You should not generalize and misdirect/confuse someone who is trying to help someone find a good SPF.
SPF Owners can have any view they want of the value of their car, but reality determines the real value. I just warn people not to drink the Kool-Aide handed out by the Administrator and his Cronies on the SCOF Board. In my opinion, their opinion of "value" and "upgrades" are self serving since they are selling cars and upgrades. My car was a one owner pristine, 7k miles, red/white car small bloc and I paid $38.5k. My friend paid $44k for a mint big block. Look at the SPF Cobra's that sold on Bring a Trailer and various Auctions and minus the 10% commission. That's the real value.

I own a small car collection of vintage cars and I agree with you that many factors are included in valuing a car, including lineage, history, maintenance records, etc. I also agree those vintage cars will appreciate if well maintained in an authentic way. But that doesn't apply to Superformance Cobras, or any other Cobra replica. These are not vintage cars, these are REPLICAS (a nice way of saying fake). If the motor blows up, you install a new one, if the interior is shot, you put in a new one. If you wrap it around a pole, you buy a new one. I use my SPF on the track. That's all I use it for. I enjoy driving my vintage cars more than my SPF, but I bought the SPF because I would never track my real vintage cars and wanted a vintage looking track car that I wouldn't care about if I blew a motor, or crashed it.

I'm not trying to generalize of confuse anyone. I don't know if your SPF Cobra is worth $60k+ or not, but if its worth $60k+ to you that's all that matters. All I'm saying is you can buy mint condition SPF small blocks for around $40k and big blocks for around $45k. That's a fact. Look at recent sales that are published and don't listen to someone on the SCOF Board, looking to broker a car for profit, or trying to unload their car or one for a friend.
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Old 09-11-2020, 03:08 PM
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Thank you Frank for saving all of us from the atrocities being committed in the replica cobra market. Anyone who spent more than $38.5 on a SPF should feel terrible about themselves.
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Wow, Someone has a hardon for a particular group. What was the OP question again?
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Wow, Someone has a hardon for a particular group. What was the OP question again?
Well, I'm sure if I ever logged on the SCOF forum I would be kicked off in short order as well.
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How do you know you would or wouldn't? It's only a rumor OR let's just say like all stories there are two sides. There are others on other sites that say you would not fit....how would they know? Are you or they right?.........well are you /they punk! (Clint squint)
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How do you know you would or wouldn't? It's only a rumor OR let's just say like all stories there are two sides. There are others on other sites that say you would not fit....how would they know? Are you or they right?.........well are you /they punk! (Clint squint)
It's been my experience there are usually three sides, not two.
  1. Side A
  2. Side B
  3. The Truth - usually somewhere between A & B.
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Well, I'm sure if I ever logged on the SCOF forum I would be kicked off in short order as well.
LOL Patrick. It doesn't take much to get kicked off.....just have an opinion that differs from the Administrator and his Cronies. Anyway, you are not missing much. Most of the posts have nothing to do with cars and are made by people looking to fill their day (many members are between 70 and 80 years old with nothing better to do). SCOF membership and the number of posts has been decreasing for years and I think that's why. I was warned about them from others SCOF members because they knew I wouldn't drink the Kool-Aide, or ignore the Forum like they do. Anyway, I still have my SCOF friends if I need anything and I had a blast on my way out the door!
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LOL Patrick. It doesn't take much to get kicked off.....just have an opinion that differs from the Administrator and his Cronies. Anyway, you are not missing much. Most of the posts have nothing to do with cars and are made by people looking to fill their day (many members are between 70 and 80 years old with nothing better to do). SCOF membership and the number of posts has been decreasing for years and I think that's why. I was warned about them from others SCOF members because they knew I wouldn't drink the Kool-Aide, or ignore the Forum like they do. Anyway, I still have my SCOF friends if I need anything and I had a blast on my way out the door!
What the hell is wrong with people between 70 and 80 years old you dildo?
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What the hell is wrong with people between 70 and 80 years old you dildo?
Over 70 is old, over 60 is still vibrant.
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Old 09-12-2020, 05:57 AM
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LOL Patrick. It doesn't take much to get kicked off.....just have an opinion that differs from the Administrator and his Cronies. Anyway, you are not missing much. Most of the posts have nothing to do with cars and are made by people looking to fill their day (many members are between 70 and 80 years old with nothing better to do). SCOF membership and the number of posts has been decreasing for years and I think that's why. I was warned about them from others SCOF members because they knew I wouldn't drink the Kool-Aide, or ignore the Forum like they do. Anyway, I still have my SCOF friends if I need anything and I had a blast on my way out the door!
Somebody must have really **** in your corn flakes on SCOF.

Let me give you the other side of the story........ When I bought my SPF in 2011 I joined SCOF. Best damn thing I ever did! The support, knowledge, technical, part numbers, and overall assistance with SPF ownership is second to none in the industry. As a matter of fact if I were to buy another Cobra it would only be an SPF.
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