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10-31-2008, 08:35 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance 156, ex Paxton 351, now a 392 Ford Racing Stroker
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Eric, it is Friday, your Dyno day .........
how did it do ?
oh yeah, did you have to also dyno tune the deer whistles ? Bill
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10-31-2008, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Wells
Eric, it is Friday, your Dyno day .........
how did it do ?
oh yeah, did you have to also dyno tune the deer whistles ? Bill
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You (and I) will have to wait a week.
I am waiting as there is an "expert" on the tunes for the DynaTek systems going to KCM next week, and if I wait I can meet him and see my engine dyno then. I thought that might be helpful in the future (you know, to hang with the right people...  )
I've been waitng 4 years for this, 1 week more is not a big deal.
Plus you have to give me until the Saturday after the friday as Hollywood AR is around 6 hours from Me Casa.
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11-06-2008, 06:35 PM
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It's Alive!!!!
Well, I traveled to Arkadelphia Arkansas yesterday, spent the night, and left early to get to Hollywood AR to see my 496 FE get dyno’d at Keith Craft’s place. I was not disapointed! After a few pulls to get the timing and mixture adjusted, we tanked up with 105 and made a few pulls.
First, the walk around after warm-up
It should be noted that after warm-ups and a few pulls the DynaTek injectors were cool to the touch. Cooler than the room temp. It’s crazy.
One of the first runs
2nd best run
666 ft lbs, and 634 hp !!!!   
YEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAA!!!
We had one other pull that was 667 tq, and 630 something hp. I’ll post the sheets tomorrow.
We put on the black booties, and dropped about 40/40, and the tune was then too rich. My guess is I will be going with the small K&N filters, or the tea strainer screens.
Hats off to everyone at KC, they really took care of me and my motor!
Now it makes the trip to Plano, I hope Michael and Gary are ready!
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11-08-2008, 11:34 AM
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666 ft lbs, and 634 hp !!!!   
YEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAA!!!
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If it was me, I think I'd just stick with those numbers no matter how well it's tuned. "The Devil's Own Torque and More Horsepower Than You Can Use."
Congrats on a great build and thanks for sharing.
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11-06-2008, 06:52 PM
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Dude, that was AWSOME. Congrats indeed! Very impressive numbers - the TQ is just incredible. DynaTek should use your engine in a commercial!
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11-06-2008, 09:30 PM
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Mr Brown it was good to meet you today. I wanted to visit with you a little more but the phone seems to get me tied up some times. When I got of the phone your wife and you had left.
I just wanted to thank you for the business and I look forward to working with Rob and the guys to get the car running great after the install. Should make a very nice drivable car when done. Look forward to seeing you again in Plano at the car show if you get to make it.
Keith Craft
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11-07-2008, 03:45 AM
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Eric, nice going ........your last stroker was king of the dyno hill one year at LCS , looks like you bettered those numbers big time ..........Bill
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11-07-2008, 04:19 AM
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E, Nice looking motor & impressive numbers. I think there's a set of rear tires that are in for a short hard life!
Regards,
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11-07-2008, 06:12 AM
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More data!
Terry, Thanks! Yeah I bet there are a few smiling faces at DynaTek. I believe this proves their claims of more hp and tq with their system. The distance that the air travels and location of the injector seems to be key.
Keith, Sorry I could not stay, but we had to get down the road. I would have to agree that the DynaTek system could take a bigger cam and make even bigger numbers, but as built this motor starts up with the flick of the switch, and will be very drivable! You and your crew really took care of me, and as you can hear got rather excited by the numbers that motor pulled!
Bill, this thing is a BEAST!!! RRRRRRRRAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!!!!! The vids do not do it justice, it is a monster after 4000 rpm and full throttle!
Mick, Thanks for the kind words. Did you feel the "FE Force" yesterday???
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11-07-2008, 12:44 PM
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Mick, Thanks for the kind words. Did you feel the "FE Force" yesterday???
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Yes, I felt the air move & the ground shake when that beast cranked to life! 
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11-07-2008, 03:10 PM
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Eric,
Well done!! Looks like my question about Dynatek working on my car's been answered. Rodney, you going to be ready after the first of year......with the twofer deal?
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01-23-2009, 08:27 PM
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WOOT!
Just got back from KCM in Plano, and had a chance to work with Rob and Michael on my motor. The idle and WOT tunes were complete, and we focused on partial throttle before and after lunch.
One pass at WOT early in the day
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514 hp @ 550 lb-ft.
I have decided to go with the screens for the air horns to keep rocks and large bugs out of the motor. These were recommended by Dynatek, and they indicated there was no need to change the tune with them. They were right, we lost one (1) hp at WOT, and gained some torque. The screens were part number 99217.250 and bought from Pierce Manifolds for under $40 a pair (4 pr’s required). Pierce has a good website, lots of Weber stuff. I might try the billet air cleaners at some time.
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/airfilters.htm
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Side Pipes looking good!
A good day, more dyno needed for mid-range driving. The guys at KCM were great to work with today.
Burn-out vids next!!!
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01-26-2009, 06:56 AM
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I want one!!!!
Can we get a group by from KCM? 
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11-07-2008, 09:04 AM
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Peak HP at 5,500 RPM, WOW! Nice job KC and Eric.
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11-07-2008, 03:28 PM
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Eric, do you have your cam specs? What are they?
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11-07-2008, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
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Eric, do you have your cam specs? What are they?
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Rod,
Let me say first that Keith and I talked about the cam, and the system "will" take more cam, and make more power/trq.
Gross Valve Lift Intake .645
Gross Valve Lift Exhaust .635
Duration(@ .050) Intake 242
Duration(@ .050) Exhaust 248
Lobe Seperation 110.0
If you need more left me know and I'll send you a scan on the card.
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11-07-2008, 04:15 PM
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My cam is slightly bigger, though close enough, but has a 112 LSA. What's exactly involved with making the Dynatek system operational on your car?
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11-08-2008, 06:54 AM
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My cam is slightly bigger, though close enough, but has a 112 LSA. What's exactly involved with making the Dynatek system operational on your car?
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Well, if your motor is already in your car you have a leg up on me. After installation you will need to have it tuned. There is a "standard" tune for an FE on the box, but depending on the headers you have, and other variables, you will want to have the system tuned on a chassis dyno. My motor will again be tuned after installed in the car.
The DynaTek system comes with the software to tune it, but you need someone that can tune.
The only mechanical thing that I can think of was the fit from the intake to the heads and block. It needed work, but not much. Keith might be able to explain what they did, I do remember it was $180 to fit the intake to the heads and block.
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11-10-2008, 09:15 AM
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E, yup, thankfully, my car is up and running. Where does the computer get mounted and I assume a sidepipe is drilled for the O2 sensor? I'm just trying to assess the difficulty factor in hooking up one of these setups. What was the "fitting" all about? Did they have to mill the intake and/or heads for a proper fit?
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11-10-2008, 03:28 PM
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E, yup, thankfully, my car is up and running. Where does the computer get mounted and I assume a sidepipe is drilled for the O2 sensor? I'm just trying to assess the difficulty factor in hooking up one of these setups. What was the "fitting" all about? Did they have to mill the intake and/or heads for a proper fit?
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Well, the box for the injection system will be under the glove box, and the 6AL will be in the engine compartment, "unless" they will both fit under the glove box.
I am going to get the small individual runner K&N filters, and have a chassis tune for both, no filters, and the K&N filters. I will not be using the "booties".
The side pipe is drilled and a bung fitted (welded) between the muffler and where the collector is, about as far back to the muffler as you can without getting into the muffler.
The fit between the intake and and the block and heads was not "true" to my understanding. I'll check with KC and see if I can get you a better explaination. But it could not have been much as it was only 180 bones. I'll check.
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