Whats CSX1001 Value? (Your Opinion)

[Trevor Legate]

A certain gent who now makes some of the best replica cars in the UK was on 'works experience' secondment to AC Cars in the late 60s while studying engineering at university. He was offered the 427 body bucks provided he could find a trailer to take them away - for free. His transport back then was a Mini so he refused the kind offer, plus he had nowhere to store them. Thus they went into the dumpster and are currently buried pretty deep in a land-fill site somewhere - possibly Essex? If you got a shovel and a strong stomach and enjoy archaeology - and about 50+ years of spare time - they could be yours! (He still sobs gently on a daily basis....)

[ENTDOC]

one of the nicest CSX4000 aluminum cars with a shelby 427 and webers just went for 110K here in Greenville last week, that will give you an idea of the market now. a year ago that car would have brought in 145-155. Your car has some special nuances to it, but overall I do not think that would add more than 7-10K in overall value and then only to the right buyer. i would advise enjoying it for now and perhaps it will increase in value over the years.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by ENTDOC

one of the nicest CSX4000 aluminum cars with a shelby 427 and webers just went for 110K here in Greenville last week, that will give you an idea of the market now. a year ago that car would have brought in 145-155. Your car has some special nuances to it, but overall I do not think that would add more than 7-10K in overall value and then only to the right buyer. i would advise enjoying it for now and perhaps it will increase in value over the years.

I think Shelby charged quite a bit more than 7-10k premium for a CSX1000 over a CSX4000 aluminum car. Plus the AC built cars are no longer available. I think he would do better than you suggest.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Trevor Legate

A certain gent who now makes some of the best replica cars in the UK was on 'works experience' secondment to AC Cars in the late 60s while studying engineering at university. He was offered the 427 body bucks provided he could find a trailer to take them away - for free. His transport back then was a Mini so he refused the kind offer, plus he had nowhere to store them. Thus they went into the dumpster and are currently buried pretty deep in a land-fill site somewhere - possibly Essex? If you got a shovel and a strong stomach and enjoy archaeology - and about 50+ years of spare time - they could be yours! (He still sobs gently on a daily basis....)

Trevor,

We all know, that just because you put it in the dumpster, does not mean that it stays there. Look what happened with CSX 2259.

When are you coming over to this side of the pond to write your new book? I need someone to walk my greyhound.

[1985 CCX]

CSX1001

I have seen your car and it is A-1!
I hope you don't take offense, it is still a CSX and one to die for.

Still between Trevor, Mike and ENTDOC the general consensus is AC post 60's really does not mean whole lot? 10:1, 1000 series cars were another way to get more $$$ for a car with the same premise as a 4000. Wonder what SAI will do for the 45th anniversary or better yet their 50th? No doubt they will find another buck or specialty lost part to separate the 4000 from the next adventure. Do you really think 43 years old wooden buck were pulled from the grave, used, and once again lost after the first issue of 1000 series cars? Doesn't make sense but the marketing is top notch. The Angliss car bodies were lightyears better than the original cars and the true bargain in the Cobra world. They do not fetch a premium so why would a 1000?

What makes the original bucks better than the KMS bucks or those in use in England today? Still hand pounded and no doubt slightly different each time a panel is made regardless of the buck.

Love your car just the same, just being real.

[Allan A]

CSX1001,

We sold three cars last year, I would put a price of $165k.

Allan

[Power Surge]

My opinion is that the car is worth in the $150k range. It's definitely worth more than a top notch alloy 4000 car, but not that much more. The "AC" tie-in is borderline comical given how far removed any form of the modern AC is from the Cobra's original roots. I do not believe the AC factor, or the CSX1000 series VIN give the car that much more value.

The source of the body bucks isn't that important to the value either. Even if they were the originals (which they were not), the value would have come from the original people pounding on them, not the bucks themselves. Heck, most original cars weren't shaped the same anyway.

CSX1001 definitely has a place in Continuation Cobra history, and it's a rare car for sure. I just don't feel it's extra attributes add all that much to the dollar value.

I would put the value of a CSX1000 series in between an alloy CSX4000 car and a McClusky Completion car.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

My opinion is that the car is worth in the $150k range. It's definitely worth more than a top notch alloy 4000 car, but not that much more. The "AC" tie-in is borderline comical given how far removed any form of the modern AC is from the Cobra's original roots. I do not believe the AC factor, or the CSX1000 series VIN give the car that much more value.

The source of the body bucks isn't that important to the value either. Even if they were the originals (which they were not), the value would have come from the original people pounding on them, not the bucks themselves. Heck, most original cars weren't shaped the same anyway.

CSX1001 definitely has a place in Continuation Cobra history, and it's a rare car for sure. I just don't feel it's extra attributes add all that much to the dollar value.

I would put the value of a CSX1000 series in between an alloy CSX4000 car and a McClusky Completion car.

Not often I agree 100% with Sal these days, but in this case just make it "X2"



Bill S.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

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The source of the body bucks isn't that important to the value either. Even if they were the originals (which they were not), the value would have come from the original people pounding on them, not the bucks themselves. Heck, most original cars weren't shaped the same anyway.

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Even with the damage done to AC by Alan Lubinsky, I still think the AC connection to the CSX 1000 series adds value. I would think a connection to the original tooling would be valuable, but apparently it is not the original buck. It would also be interesting to use the original people, yet all of them are probably retired by now. Consider that some people prefer a Shelby CSX Cobra to a Kirkham replica, yet the original Shelby people like Remington, Brock, Miles, etc. are not employed by the current SAI company.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Even with the damage done to AC by Alan Lubinsky, I still think the AC connection to the CSX 1000 series adds value. I would think a connection to the original tooling would be valuable, but apparently it is not the original buck. It would also be interesting to use the original people, yet all of them are probably retired by now. Consider that some people prefer a Shelby CSX Cobra to a Kirkham replica, yet the original Shelby people like Remington, Brock, Miles, etc. are not employed by the current SAI company.

Yes I agree, and I am not saying the CSX1000 doesn't have a higher value over a CSX4000 series. I absolutely believe it does. I just don't think it's a considerable number, in the resale market. I don't believe that people are going to pay a considerable amount of money more for a CSX1000 car over a nice alloy CSX4000 car. I really don't think the AC "connection" on the CSX1000 series add enough value to warrant a large dollar value increase.

Here's a similar scenario.... Backdraft Coupe vs SPF Coupe. Both priced very similarly, yet the SPF Coupe was actually designed by Peter Brock. Not inspired by Brock, or endorsed by Brock, but actually designed by him. And yet there's no added "dollar value" from that over other similar quality Coupes.

If that makes sense to you, that's the point I am making on the CSX1000 deal.

[CSXNUT]

When I ordered AC Bodied CSX1002 it Retailed at $130K or so w/ No Drivetrain. This was at a time when the CSX Aluminum Cars were far less than $100K. Times are tough right now... but it would have cost a guy $170,000 or more to have owned one of these complete and only yours was actually owned by Mr Shelby!

[ENTDOC]

i cannot disagree with Alan on setting you price at 165, you never know who might want it that bad. another point you should realize is that shelby built a few cars in the early 90's and the guy that sold the CSX 4000 car for 110K also has one of those. I think they went for high 300s at that time, on the premise that they were some kind of special car with original roots. He cannot sell it now at 200K.
Sal, the car might seem to be worth 150 , but CSX 4000 aluminum cars can be had for 120 or so on EBAY right now on a daily basis and glass cars seem to be dropping into the low 70s as a routine.