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Old 10-25-2010, 08:28 AM
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I think Rodney and a few others have been on target regarding this choice. Purchasing/owning a CSX, at least to me, is more about prominence. You hear the guys on the Speed Channel mention that continuously when the BJ auctions are on. If prominence is your primary motivation and you can afford to ante up, then why not? More power to you. Sure, the average Joe on the street won't know the difference, But it's your money, so who really cares what others think?
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:12 AM
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I think Rodney and a few others have been on target regarding this choice. Purchasing/owning a CSX, at least to me, is more about prominence. You hear the guys on the Speed Channel mention that continuously when the BJ auctions are on. If prominence is your primary motivation and you can afford to ante up, then why not? More power to you. Sure, the average Joe on the street won't know the difference, But it's your money, so who really cares what others think?
It's Provenance. It has to do with the documented history of the vehicle (or any other collectible).
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:13 AM
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I think Rodney and a few others have been on target regarding this choice. Purchasing/owning a CSX, at least to me, is more about prominence. You hear the guys on the Speed Channel mention that continuously when the BJ auctions are on. If prominence is your primary motivation and you can afford to ante up, then why not? More power to you. Sure, the average Joe on the street won't know the difference, But it's your money, so who really cares what others think?
Do you mean "provenance", not "prominence"?

I have a question about the CSX. Do you get an original type suspension with the Girling brakes included in the $49,995 price (soon to be $59,995)?

The Kirkhams used to charge (they may still, dunno) customers an additional $16,000 (retail) or thereabouts on top of their well-optioned base model.

Personally, I wouldn't want the original type suspension and certainly wouldn't pay $16,000 extra for it, but for the purist, at $49,995 that would seem like a good deal.
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I have a question about the CSX. Do you get an original type suspension with the Girling brakes included in the $49,995 price (soon to be $59,995)?

The Kirkhams used to charge (they may still, dunno) customers an additional $16,000 (retail) or thereabouts on top of their well-optioned base model.

Personally, I wouldn't want the original type suspension and certainly wouldn't pay $16,000 extra for it, but for the purist, at $49,995 that would seem like a good deal.
Rodnknock,
With a Shelby you get the original suspension with (I believe) Baer brakes, not Girlings.
And I'm also pretty sure that Kirkham still charges that premium for original style suspension. I love the billet suspension and all the 'updates' of a Kirkham, that was a big reason for me choosing a KMP over CSX (glass). But if I wanted a more 'original' car I would've gotten a CSX (glass-for budget reasons) and still been very happy.
But there's another faction that's interesting: What about the guys who buy Kirkhams with original suspension and paint them? How does THAT compare to a Shelby Ally price wise? Did anyone here do it?
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With a Shelby you get the original suspension with (I believe) Baer brakes, not Girlings.
You are correct, they come with Baer brakes now, although I think some of the early 4,000 series came with the Girling brakes. Not sure the Girling brakes are even an option from Shelby anymore.

By the way, if I had gone with a Kirkham, I probably would have been one of the few that had it painted. I prefer the painted look, although I like the alloy on other people's cars, but then it just doesn't seem right to paint a Kirkham (and answering questions about why I painted it might have gotten old after a while).
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... By the way, if I had gone with a Kirkham, I probably would have been one of the few that had it painted. I prefer the painted look, although I like the alloy on other people's cars, but then it just doesn't seem right to paint a Kirkham (and answering questions about why I painted it might have gotten old after a while).
Doug,

Good point ... I really like the bare 427 Kirkhams, they look good in their raw form.

On the other hand, I have only seen a few of the 289 Kirkhams in bare aluminum, and to me they just look better painted.

The one real advantage is not having to pick a color, but then there is the brushed or polished, stripes or no stripes.

Any way you slice it with these cars, there are a lot of decisions involved, which is a big part of the fun !
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