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03-05-2011, 08:40 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Are you liking your new dress yet Brent??
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Now Chas., you realize that you will cross the line if you refer to Brent as "a sportin' girl." Them there would be fightin' words. 
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03-05-2011, 08:42 AM
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Patrick, ever seen the movie, "Quigley Down Under" ?
If so, remember at the end where Matthew Quigley kills the head bad guy with a handgun....and the bad guy looks at him with questions in his eyes as his life fades away? Let Matthew's reply come back to you...."I just said that I didn't prefer a handgun, it doesn't mean that I don't know how to use one."

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03-05-2011, 11:04 AM
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I'm having a difficult time understanding why you would base your decision, on one of the most important parts in your engine, on the fact that it's free. What does a custom nitrided camshaft run? About $150-$200? That's like an average bar tab at Patrick's local oyster bar.
Now if you're just running an elaborate "deek", ultimately using the solid lifter camshaft as a living room art piece, or maybe a paperweight for your work desk, then please proceed. Honor, schmoner.
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03-05-2011, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
What does a custom nitrided camshaft run? About $150-$200?
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Uh, a little more than that....that's why I offered to pay for it.
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03-05-2011, 11:07 AM
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By the way, what's up with the gratuitous camera shots of the white dog? Did the dog just happen to follow you around the house as you took your hand model photos with your lube?
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03-05-2011, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
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By the way, what's up with the gratuitous camera shots of the white dog? Did the dog just happen to follow you around the house as you took your hand model photos with your lube?
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Uhhh, I just love my dog. And she likes to see herself on the internet. 
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03-05-2011, 01:13 PM
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I never saw a price tag, but I expect it is big bucks.
I was thinking along the lines of using an Explorer IRS and then substituting a 9" center section, where the 8.8 was. Never got far enough to determine the ease to do or the cost.
I expect the Explorer IRS would hold up if the tires didn't get too much bite. But then why build ~445 inch FE if you cannot hook it to the ground?
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03-05-2011, 01:24 PM
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Has anyone ever looked at using the Expedition center section and modified half shafts??
Or is the 10.5" center section way too big?
The 9" definitely has the advantage that you could change out gear ratios a lot quicker by swapping out third member with a spare
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03-05-2011, 01:31 PM
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I'm definitely going IRS on this one. I just like the stance of the cars better. Some aftermarket half-shafts should help with strength.
The 9" IRS is too rich for my blood....and I need the plethora of ratios and differentials that are available for the 8.8's.
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03-05-2011, 02:04 PM
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Your probably right. I have heard of half shafts breaking, but never heard of an 8.8" breaking on the street. I'm sure they have, but a 9" can break too.
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03-05-2011, 02:11 PM
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There are 9 second Mustangs running 8.8's with C-clip eliminators, so they have to be pretty strong.
I don't need much for my 300hp 445 anyway... 
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03-05-2011, 08:39 PM
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Brent-how do you get out to 445-Scat cast crank? Bore x stroke?
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03-05-2011, 11:16 PM
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Well, when I'm building my next engine, Patrick better offer to pay for both my cams.
OK back to your build, we know its going to have a 445 with an antiquated low HP cam, which will slowly whittle itself away, Ed heads, plus a Toploader and 8.8" IRS rear end.
What type of roller rockers? PRW's? Ersons (saved/put aside, since they're no longer made)? T&D's?
Can we talk fuel induction? What are talking about here? Single, dual or Weber carbs or EFI?
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03-06-2011, 05:34 AM
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Quote:
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Brent-how do you get out to 445-Scat cast crank? Bore x stroke?
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Yes, Scat cast crank. 4.080" x 4.250".
I haven't decided on the rocker arms yet. I do sell a lot of the PRW stuff and they look/work really well. Since I'm not going the solid roller route, I don't need anything overly special.
As for induction, the last FE that I did for myself had a Tunnel Wedge. I think I'll take the easy way out this time and go with a Victor intake with one nicely sized Quick Fuel carb.
I need to get this old nasty 360 knocked apart and baked/blasted.
My goal is to hit about 600hp at around 6500. The heads will play the biggest role in that.
I'm starting a 528ci BBF with Kaase Boss 9 heads probably the end of this week. Whatever I get with the 445FE will be minute in comparison to the power that this thing will put out. We're aiming for about 725-750hp at a tad under 6000 rpm. Yes, I'll be jaded. I bought a Bullet hydraulic ROLLER for that engine...
And this:

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03-06-2011, 11:29 AM
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Toploader's buttoned up...
And the 360 is down to the short block. Absolutely beautiful. C7ME-A block, standard bore.

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03-07-2011, 08:40 AM
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Done.
Chatted with Richard this morning. Your cam is on its way (to me). And yes, I got it nitrided for you. 
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03-07-2011, 08:59 AM
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I would love to have been a fly on the wall during that conversation...
So what are you going to do when you get it? Just take random pictures of it so that you can prove that you know what a cam looks like?
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03-07-2011, 09:04 AM
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I would love to have been a fly on the wall during that conversation...
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It was uneventful; I have ordered cams before.
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So what are you going to do when you get it? Just take random pictures of it so that you can prove that you know what a cam looks like?
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In the words of our beloved ERAChas, "now don't you worry your pretty little head about that...."
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08-16-2011, 08:33 PM
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From post #120:
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My goal is to hit about 600hp at around 6500. The heads will play the biggest role in that.
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Now that bridge on the bottom end makes sense. A 1.35 motor. The heads will need to be 350 or so, no? Also, I found the cams' lobe lifts but not the gross lift. Please enlighten (or repeat if I missed).
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08-17-2011, 02:44 AM
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Heads will have to be "special"....
Lift at the valve is around .630" with a 1.76 ratio.
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