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03-06-2011, 02:16 PM
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Brent I'll buy you a new set of cast pistons to go along with that new cam....
that will help keep the cost of your new engine down and you possibly buy one of those aluminun cars to put your new motor in........
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03-06-2011, 04:36 PM
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Bob, it would take more than the cost of a set of pistons to get me into an aluminum car....LOL
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03-06-2011, 06:28 PM
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Stuff to Help You On the Installation...
Here you go, I thought I'd post this up-to-date information on installing the latest camshafts from the Ford Performance Advisor. Thought it might help ya.... 
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03-06-2011, 06:12 PM
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Soooooo.....I take it thats a NO on the cast pistons......
you just missed out on a killer deal on a Hurricane on Ebay.....
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03-07-2011, 02:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rustyBob
Soooooo.....I take it thats a NO on the cast pistons......
you just missed out on a killer deal on a Hurricane on Ebay.....
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I saw that Hurricane on Ebay.....I wish I still had that money tree growing in the backyard.... 
I don't think I could trust a cast piston at the horsepower and rpm levels that I'll be turning with this engine. It will have to be forged... |
03-07-2011, 04:02 AM
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Just curious Brent...
Did you inspect the area around that aftermarket expansion freeze plug in the 360 block? I've seen those used trying to reseal some freeze damage. Sometimes it's accompanied by a hair line crack radiating from the hole. I don't know that I wouldn't hit it with a rotary wire brush and do a little dye penetrant check. I'm sure you've considered all that though...
Questions on the block...
Are you going to cross-bolt the block? The 360s didn't have the HD block webbing like a few of the 390 GTs, 428 service blocks and the 428 solid flat-tappet motors. All the 360s were hydraulic flat tappet motors. Since you're going to be twisting this pretty hard aren't you a tad worried about bottom end stability? Hasn't someone come up with a FE bottom girdle? I seem to recall it required machining the tops of the main caps.
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03-07-2011, 04:08 AM
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Dave,
That's as far as I've got with stripping the engine down. It will surely be magged as I've seen cracks in those areas too.
As far as the bottom end, I haven't made up my mind yet. It may get a set of Pro-Gram caps. It will see some revs, but not on a regular basis like a drag or road race engine.
There are main girdles available for the FE...they use the oil pan flange as well to pull it all together. |
03-07-2011, 09:15 AM
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Yeah......sure.....
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03-07-2011, 09:32 AM
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here we go with the dog model again......
makeing your animal pose with car parts is just plain animal abuse......
Brent, I'm not asking this question to be a smart a$$ but did Ford use some
other type of piston other than cast in their Hi-Po engines of the 60's ???
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03-07-2011, 09:39 AM
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While Brent's Thinking...
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Originally Posted by rustyBob
here we go with the dog model again......
makeing your animal pose with car parts is just plain animal abuse......
Brent, I'm not asking this question to be a smart a$$ but did Ford use some
other type of piston other than cast in their Hi-Po engines of the 60's ???
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From the 1966 high performance catalog:
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03-07-2011, 09:53 AM
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Yes, factory pistons were cast aluminum.
It would be hard to find a cast piston with floating wrist pins setup for a 6.700" BBC rod and a 4.250" stroke.
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03-28-2011, 11:14 AM
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Checked on Your Cam this Morning
Brent, I called Richard at Bullet this morning to make sure your cam hasn't fallen through the cracks and he said it should be coming back from the nitriding process in the next day or so. He'll then ship it right out to me. Evidently the nitriding process is more of a deal than I thought. Just wanted you to know that I wasn't "asleep at the wheel."  |
03-28-2011, 11:15 AM
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I trust you....I knew when they had to send it out that it would take a lot longer...
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03-28-2011, 11:16 AM
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I trust you....I knew when they had to send it out that it would take a lot longer...
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03-28-2011, 11:28 AM
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Well I have to say they are about as nice as can be. I'm not used to dealing with people that nice. |
You'll tick them off eventually. Just give it some more time. |
04-08-2011, 09:16 AM
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Update
Just got off the phone with Richard at Bullet Cams. The cam has still not come back from the nitriding. He's going to call them up and scream at them and then call me back and give me an update. <sigh> You know, this kind of takes me back to when I was having my Cobra built years ago. There was something that I had to have, and that couldn't be gotten, and it was a real nuisance. It might of been the SCAT crank, but I can't remember. Doing anything with these cars is basically a PITA.  |
03-07-2011, 10:28 AM
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I'm praying for a huge lightening strike in suburban DC that vaporizes all keyboards in that area...
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03-07-2011, 10:30 AM
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I'm praying for a huge lightening strike in suburban DC that vaporizes all keyboards in that area...
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Sorry, I got more gadgets that connect to the internet than a dog has fleas.  |
03-07-2011, 10:36 AM
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I'm praying for a huge lightening strike in suburban DC that vaporizes all keyboards in that area...
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I'm starting to rethink the wisdom of my decision as well.... 
On the other hand, the specs are right here in the thread so there's not anything more to say.... |
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on the other hand, the specs are right here in the thread so there's not anything more to say....
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You will soon see the folly of this thought...
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