Aluminum Body Shelby Continuation rollers $160,000.00

[RodKnock]

Ya, I'm presently in Brazil and I just found out that Coach Klinsmann cannot add me to the World Cup team roster now that Jozy Altidore strained his hamstring. Darn FIFA rules.

The good news is that Andrea Merkel invited me into her box to watch the Germany-USA game and she said I can paint my face and chest red/white/blue for the match.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Ya, I'm presently in Brazil and I just found out that Coach Klinsmann cannot add me to the World Cup team roster now that Jozy Altidore strained his hamstring. Darn FIFA rules.

The good news is that Andrea Merkel invited me into her box to watch the Germany-USA game and she said I can paint my face and chest red/white/blue for the match.

You are a very foolish man. At least have some balls and direct it towards me. Nothing you stated has anything to do what has previously been stated.

If you want to continue your behavior about my comments and those to another individual that you have targeted I would gladly meet with you in person so others do not have to read any of this.

Edit for knock: I have already several invites from members more interesting than you that I can not accommodate this summer and not my intention of insulting them by meeting you in person.

[FatBoy]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

The good news is that Andrea Merkel invited me into her box to watch the Germany-USA game and she said I can paint my face and chest red/white/blue for the match.

"Andrea Merkel", would that be the less well-known sister of the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel?

BTW, being invited into her "box" would have very different connotations over this side of the pond, but I don't want to go there.

Paul

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by FatBoy

"Andrea Merkel", would that be the less well-known sister of the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel?

BTW, being invited into her "box" would have very different connotations over this side of the pond, but I don't want to go there.

Paul

No, it has the same meaning over here to. It's just Rodknock.

[AL427SBF]

onyx, hate to break this to you but most can see you are FOS. the consistent self-serving BS in almost every post can only fly for so long. apparently you have delusions of grandeur to offset a lacking self esteem. like I said before, the word's most interesting man doesn't hold a candle to you and your globe trotting escapades to rub elbows with the rich & famous, run "fund raisers" for politicians, and hold hands with the young underprivileged
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[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

onyx, hate to break this to you but most can see you are FOS. the consistent self-serving BS in almost every post can only fly for so long. apparently you have delusions of grandeur to offset a lacking self esteem. like I said before, the word's most interesting man doesn't hold a candle to you and your globe trotting escapades to rub elbows with the rich & famous, run "fund raisers" for politicians, and hold hands with the young underprivileged
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Are you stupid or what? You have the intestinal fortitude to say that to me in person?

There already have been three members from three different continents making note of some of your and other members posts. You do not know me at all or what I'm about. Why don't you listen instead of running your mouth off. Seriously dude!!! I have a whole line of air craft carriers to start dropping on fools as yourself. You bring absolutely no weight here. Very foolish comments. As I stated before ignore or take the weight. You were judged and found wanting long ago.

Already messaged Jamo this site will be a battle field if members like you continue. Same ole small minded crap day in and day out. Yes Jamo tells everyone to knock it out but the pattern of abuses continue. What do you bring to the table?

It's very sad some of the members here. If I was a bastard I would say it's laughable in my position about members trying to uplift themselves by offering financial advice. Maybe you should listen. My brother who is a true financial architect listened very carefully to people. Bought millions of shares of individual stock at dollars apiece now worth large amounts.

My family actually was one that bailed out this country twice, once with the Rothschilds in the 1890's and again in the panic of 1907. From a small industrial tube manufacturing company my great-grandfather was a visionary and inventor He combined principal interests in his field into one company and later with JP Morgan as partner headed National Steel Company. Shortly thereafter headed the first billon dollar company in the world-US Steel. Was the largest stockholder of the company and grew tired of that and was partners in three banks . Son in law was first to head NY federal reserve. We set policy for decades. Helped pull this country out of the depression by building up and investing in our 17th ranked military which became #1 with the atomic bomb.

Now my family has been collecting transportation before the invention of the automobile. Sorry to jump around all valid facts but not fully explained.

In fact you do know the US does manipulate the price of gold. Just a short time ago I personally made what you in your limited mind would be a massive sum.To me it was a good run.

Try to listen once again you may learn something. Did you get that or do I need to repeat it again and again and again.

What do you contribute other than being a troll? A chevy in a Cobra thread! Please maybe you should stay there.

Did you ever serve and save lives or just sit home on your computer and troll.


I might say that's a lot of delusion. Have an opinion but at least come correct.

Is that enough weight for you? Or should I make it personal now?

Your choice ignore posts and not make silly immature comments or suffer the weight. "You ain't seen nothing yet as the saying goes."


I have always stated I have been blessed for opportunities that I have had.


Carry on

[Jamo]

Enough. I've made it clear everywhere that it's time to move on and stop the personal confrontations.

So ends another thread.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

As a factory-authorized Shelby Cobra dealer I can give you all fresh updates on cars as of June 1st / The CSX 4000/6000 alumni body cars are, in fact, two years out. They are also now called CSX 6000's (alumni or fiberglass) so the CSX 4000 is dead - SAI will take 50% of the MSRP and place your order - You will then wait……and wait and wait some more / The MSRP has been raised on both the alumnium and glass cars all the way around due to increase from suppliers (those bastards!) LOL - Option prices have gone thru the roof / now as far as Daytona Coupes I am told to be on the look out for a 50th anniversary Coupe (not sure if its glass or alumni) to be shown at Barrett Jackson Las Vegas in September followed by a 50th anniversary 427 S/C in January of next year / As far as the CSX 7000 50th anniversary cars i have not sold 1 - NADA, nope, nothing, zero, 0! - I chalk that up to the fact that the car is a sticker and badge job done by former (clueless) SAI management and that the CSX 7000 does not even get close to looking like a real 289 comp car (its superformance kit-looking from the rear of the doors going back) looks wrong - Of course i will be happy to sell you one and again we go with the 50% deposit and a wait and a wait / With that behind us I look forward the the 50th anniv coupe and 427 S/C car - Always available to answer questions just post or call

Best!

SGB
(770) 900 5532

Good relevant info for this thread.

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Good relevant info for this thread.

Looking at the roller list, how much are baer brakes, halibrand wheels, leaf springs, tires, bucket seats, carpet, frame, roll bar, wooden steering wheel, Smith gauges, mirrors? U buy these identical parts from a store and they don't add up to $25K.

2 year wait+++ is a long time! People get sick, move, divorce, go broke, find other toys, lose patience, etc. Do buyers lose their 50% deposit if they back out?

After the body/frame is complete, the rest of the Cobra is not hard to assemble. I can install front and rear suspension in 2-3 work days(8 hrs a day), and u don't need to be a Cobra specialist. Fact: my buddy purchased a Shelby Mustang Snake from Shelby Inc. and the Shelby Tech who assembled his Mustang also works on Cobras (when or if they ever arrive at the Vegas shop). Look past nostalgia. These Cobras are not complicated to build and build quickly.

At least FFR got their philosophy and budget correct; these cars are for hobbyists, a niche market, and they should be reasonably priced to continue the hobby.

SAI makes Cobras with 60 year old parts and charges 3X or 4X their actual cost, a 2 year wait, and they give u a hot rod authenticated with Shelby's name and Cobra badges? With all due respect to the Shelby legacy and family, the exclusivity brand is not worth $160K++, not with the build parts and depreciation drop once the car leaves the showroom.(Is there a warranty for a roller?)

nyg

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Looking at the roller list, how much are baer brakes, halibrand wheels, leaf springs, tires, bucket seats, carpet, frame, roll bar, wooden steering wheel, Smith gauges, mirrors? U buy these identical parts from a store and they don't add up to $25K.

2 year wait+++ is a long time! People get sick, move, divorce, go broke, find other toys, lose patience, etc. Do buyers lose their 50% deposit if they back out?

After the body/frame is complete, the rest of the Cobra is not hard to assemble. I can install front and rear suspension in 2-3 work days(8 hrs a day), and u don't need to be a Cobra specialist. Fact: my buddy purchased a Shelby Mustang Snake from Shelby Inc. and the Shelby Tech who assembled his Mustang also works on Cobras (when or if they ever arrive at the Vegas shop). Look past nostalgia. These Cobras are not complicated to build and build quickly.

At least FFR got their philosophy and budget correct; these cars are for hobbyists, a niche market, and they should be reasonably priced to continue the hobby.

SAI makes Cobras with 60 year old parts and charges 3X or 4X their actual cost, a 2 year wait, and they give u a hot rod authenticated with Shelby's name and Cobra badges? With all due respect to the Shelby legacy and family, the exclusivity brand is not worth $160K++, not with the build parts and depreciation drop once the car leaves the showroom.(Is there a warranty for a roller?)

nyg

First, thank you for bringing the topic back to Shelby Cobra's. If I want to hear about watches, then I should jump off the nearest bridge.

Second, you're still forgetting about the supply/demand equation. Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG) is $565/share right now with a P/E of 53. What is up with that? I don't understand. It's fast food Mexican style. Supply/Demand.

You will have to wait for an ERA, KMP or CSX. The KMP wait will vary, but in the past, 4-6 months is/was normal. SPF tends to be a short(er) wait.

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

First, thank you for bringing the topic back to Shelby Cobra's. If I want to hear about watches, then I should jump off the nearest bridge.

Second, you're still forgetting about the supply/demand equation. Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG) is $565/share right now with a P/E of 53. What is up with that? I don't understand. It's fast food Mexican style. Supply/Demand.

You will have to wait for an ERA, KMP or CSX. The KMP wait will vary, but in the past, 4-6 months is/was normal. SPF tends to be a short(er) wait.

I have 2 expensive watches: Bell Ross and a Rolex and I don't wear either. My Casio is my everyday. I do have a fake Omega and Jaeger made in Japan and neither would I wear to a wedding or to Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance.

I don't have Chipotle but I had plenty of Facebook when I used to work there. Cashed out. Semi-retired now.

4-6 month wait is reasonable. 2 year++ is absurd for 60 year old bolt on parts. I believe the USA wait for a McLaren P1 is 18 months.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

I have 2 expensive watches: Bell Ross and a Rolex and I don't wear either. My Casio is my everyday. I do have a fake Omega and Jaeger made in Japan and neither would I wear to a wedding or to Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance.

I don't have Chipotle but I had plenty of Facebook when I used to work there. Cashed out. Semi-retired now.

4-6 month wait is reasonable. 2 year++ is absurd for 60 year old bolt on parts. I believe the USA wait for a McLaren P1 is 18 months.

Actually was talking to McLaren Special Operations(MSO) the other week. I have been sort of stalling and trying to figure out with them certain specializations for lack of a better word. I think the entire production of 375 should be completed by Christmas. P1's have just started to be seen in the US. They kissed Jay's ass by giving him the first one imported into the US.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

If I want to hear about watches, then I should jump off the nearest bridge.

Y

I know a few very peaceful and scenic bridges in the LA area I can recommend.


Rolex to me is like my Ford P/U's. Patek, Vacherin(especially the ones with invisible backs)are very nice and rarely wear any of them. My favorite one is the mariana trench watch. I still have a few MIB watches I give away as gifts.

NYG doesn't have a watch by Jacob?

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

NYG doesn't have a watch by Jacob?

Yes, made in Canal Street, NYC.

But my "real" sneakers' collection will impress u!

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Looking at the roller list, how much are baer brakes, halibrand wheels, leaf springs, tires, bucket seats, carpet, frame, roll bar, wooden steering wheel, Smith gauges, mirrors? U buy these identical parts from a store and they don't add up to $25K.

2 year wait+++ is a long time! People get sick, move, divorce, go broke, find other toys, lose patience, etc. Do buyers lose their 50% deposit if they back out?

After the body/frame is complete, the rest of the Cobra is not hard to assemble. I can install front and rear suspension in 2-3 work days(8 hrs a day), and u don't need to be a Cobra specialist. Fact: my buddy purchased a Shelby Mustang Snake from Shelby Inc. and the Shelby Tech who assembled his Mustang also works on Cobras (when or if they ever arrive at the Vegas shop). Look past nostalgia. These Cobras are not complicated to build and build quickly.

At least FFR got their philosophy and budget correct; these cars are for hobbyists, a niche market, and they should be reasonably priced to continue the hobby.

SAI makes Cobras with 60 year old parts and charges 3X or 4X their actual cost, a 2 year wait, and they give u a hot rod authenticated with Shelby's name and Cobra badges? With all due respect to the Shelby legacy and family, the exclusivity brand is not worth $160K++, not with the build parts and depreciation drop once the car leaves the showroom.(Is there a warranty for a roller?)

nyg

Well I could be wrong, but I have heard that some folks get their FFR kits delivered pretty quickly but then it takes them years to put them together.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Looking at the roller list, how much are baer brakes, halibrand wheels, leaf springs, tires, bucket seats, carpet, frame, roll bar, wooden steering wheel, Smith gauges, mirrors? U buy these identical parts from a store and they don't add up to $25K.

2 year wait+++ is a long time! People get sick, move, divorce, go broke, find other toys, lose patience, etc. Do buyers lose their 50% deposit if they back out?

After the body/frame is complete, the rest of the Cobra is not hard to assemble. I can install front and rear suspension in 2-3 work days(8 hrs a day), and u don't need to be a Cobra specialist. Fact: my buddy purchased a Shelby Mustang Snake from Shelby Inc. and the Shelby Tech who assembled his Mustang also works on Cobras (when or if they ever arrive at the Vegas shop). Look past nostalgia. These Cobras are not complicated to build and build quickly.

At least FFR got their philosophy and budget correct; these cars are for hobbyists, a niche market, and they should be reasonably priced to continue the hobby.

SAI makes Cobras with 60 year old parts and charges 3X or 4X their actual cost, a 2 year wait, and they give u a hot rod authenticated with Shelby's name and Cobra badges? With all due respect to the Shelby legacy and family, the exclusivity brand is not worth $160K++, not with the build parts and depreciation drop once the car leaves the showroom.(Is there a warranty for a roller?)

nyg

Things are worth what you can get. Thats supply and demand. Thats capitalism. Sounds like you want all these cars priced so they are affordable to the masses. Kinda like a "peoples car" right? Liberals/Progressives can take that desire and move to North Korea. That's the utopian socialistic state.

Moreover, your statements reveal your ignorance of the hobby. There are multiple Cobra replicas (SAAC's definition) available at $20K in kit form. You can buy a completed car for under $30K. How much less did you want them priced?

Oh, you want Shelbys price at $30K? You don't like their business model?. Write them a note. You think they are overpriced? Don't buy one. The wait is way too long? Don't buy one.

They use 60 year old parts? Really? Oh, you mean antiquated design? Well if you are continuing to produce a car that is 60 years old in design how else would you do it? In fact they have improved where they could in materials. Kirkham has improved aspects too but overall if you are continuing to build a 60 year old car your parameters are limited. No?

You think the options list for a Shelby Cobra are too expensive? Don't buy them from Shelby and install yourself.

Cobra replicas are easy to build? How many builds have you completed and what? If you build cars for a living every day its easy after a while. Anythings easier if you know how. A car, even one as simple as a Cobra or replica of one is very difficult to construct. You clearly have no clue of whats involved. It takes hours and hours of patience, mechanical and electrical know how and skill and elbow grease. Again, how many cars have you built?

News flash. This entire hobby from originals down to FFRs is a niche'. The % of people that know about these cars and car is infinitesimal compared to the overall population. Unfortunately, techno geeks are the wave of the future that lust for Prius's and over pay for sneakers. So I do agree with the notion that the Cobra value and industry will likely die out but I believe it will be from originals down to FFRs many years from now. Unfortunately there will not remain enough interest in these cars. When that goes even the originals will be old pieces of junk that no one will have an interest in. Could likely happen.

Shelbys are 3-4x cost? Really? Where are you getting your data? Even if they are, whats the issue with this? Supply and demand. If they don't sell prices will drop. If they are desired and supply is limited price rise. Not a socialist model I know but thats how it works here in the U.S. at least for now. Another Obama and were done.

In fact, What was the profit margin on your Prius? What was the profit margin on your overpriced sneaker collection? (Sneaker collection? Really). Whats the profit margin on a FFR? Are you just trolling and speaking out your arse or do you have facts and data? Please enlighten us. Your semi retired from Facebook? What was your profit margin? You clearly retired way to fast. Clearly way too much.

Shelbys are just a hotrod authenticated by Shelby? Your correct actually. So were the original series. No difference. Fabricators changed thats the bulk of it. The Cobra was the ultimate hot rod. So are the replicas of it. In fact the replicas have helped keep the hobby alive and Cobra alive for 45 years.

Rodknock is correct and finally citing correctly to authoritative text. Kirkhams are considered Cobras for numerous reasons. Do you even have a Registry? Do you even know what one looks like?

Whats the point of openning a garage and seeing Cobra replica hot rod you ask? A FFR, BDR, Kirk is no more a Cobra than your Nissan or Prius or whatever rice burner/battery powered flashlight your driving you say? A Cobra is a Cobra. A replica of one is at least replicating one in looks and likely performance and the character and spirit of what the car was. It is a celebration of history and American accomplishment. You obviously have no clue what the hobby is all about.

Which would get your pulse going faster after seeing the garage door rising a Cobra replica or a Prius? I know what my answer is. Guys who collect sneakers obviously not so much.

Stick to sneakers cause you are clearly clueless when it comes to Cobras and replicas.

[Al G]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

As a factory-authorized Shelby Cobra dealer I can give you all fresh updates on cars as of June 1st / The CSX 4000/6000 alumni body cars are, in fact, two years out. They are also now called CSX 6000's (alumni or fiberglass) so the CSX 4000 is dead - SAI will take 50% of the MSRP and place your order - You will then wait……and wait and wait some more / The MSRP has been raised on both the alumnium and glass cars all the way around due to increase from suppliers (those bastards!) LOL - Option prices have gone thru the roof / now as far as Daytona Coupes I am told to be on the look out for a 50th anniversary Coupe (not sure if its glass or alumni) to be shown at Barrett Jackson Las Vegas in September followed by a 50th anniversary 427 S/C in January of next year / As far as the CSX 7000 50th anniversary cars i have not sold 1 - NADA, nope, nothing, zero, 0! - I chalk that up to the fact that the car is a sticker and badge job done by former (clueless) SAI management and that the CSX 7000 does not even get close to looking like a real 289 comp car (its superformance kit-looking from the rear of the doors going back) looks wrong - Of course i will be happy to sell you one and again we go with the 50% deposit and a wait and a wait / With that behind us I look forward the the 50th anniv coupe and 427 S/C car - Always available to answer questions just post or call

Best!

SGB
(770) 900 5532

Can you elaborate on what you think is wrong with the 7000 series body? Any pictures that show differences between the originals and the current offering?

[stephen_becker]

Originally Posted by Al G

Can you elaborate on what you think is wrong with the 7000 series body? Any pictures that show differences between the originals and the current offering?

All you do is attack me on different forums - I do not know you, have never spoken with you (to the best of my knowledge) nor did you buy a car from me - You want elaboration and details? Call the dealer that sold you your csx car and ask him………..

[Al G]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

All you do is attack me on different forums - I do not know you, have never spoken with you (to the best of my knowledge) nor did you buy a car from me - You want elaboration and details? Call the dealer that sold you your csx car and ask him………..

How did I attack you? You made a statement about the car and I asked for more detail because I respect your knowledge of these cars.