Mystery solved. Shelby Trust to sell Real Cobras

[HealeyRick]

Just out of curiosity, do any of the non '60s Cobras ever sell for more than their purchase price after the first owner is done with them? Is there truly a monetary investment value to these special editions? I'm talking real sales here, not "appraised value."

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by HealeyRick

Just out of curiosity, do any of the non '60s Cobras ever sell for more than their purchase price after the first owner is done with them? Is there truly a monetary investment value to these special editions? I'm talking real sales here, not "appraised value."

Yes, several of them do.
Shelby, Kirkham, ERA, Contemporary to name a few seem to do quite well. I'm sure someone will let me know which ones I forgot to list!

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Yes, several of them do.
Shelby, Kirkham, ERA, Contemporary, FFR, SPF, Unique, Classic Auto Carriage, Street Beast, Road Serpent , Backdraft to name a few seem to do quite well. I'm sure someone will let me know which ones I forgot to list!

Having been involved in the sale/resale of over 100 cobra replicas to date, I'll strongly disagree with that statement. It is extremely(EXTREMELY) rare in this day and age to come across an original builder/buyer who can get his original investment out of the car at time of resale.


Bill S.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Having been involved in the sale/resale of over 100 cobra replicas to date, I'll strongly disagree with that statement. It is extremely(EXTREMELY) rare in this day and age to come across an original builder/buyer who can get his original investment out of the car at time of resale.


Bill S.

News Alert: Kirkham base rollers are now $100,000.

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

News Alert: Kirkham base rollers are now $100,000.

When I bought my Superfromance the roller price was $40grand, I was able to put the car together, drive it for years, and sold it for what I paid for it due to the price increase of the roller, same will go with Kirkhams, I bought my roller out the door for $70grand, I have already made $30grand just on that, I guarantee I could sell it for more than I have in it due to the cost to build one with the roller prices through the roof, its all about timing...

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Having been involved in the sale/resale of over 100 cobra replicas to date, I'll strongly disagree with that statement. It is extremely(EXTREMELY) rare in this day and age to come across an original builder/buyer who can get his original investment out of the car at time of resale.


Bill S.

That part might be true, but I dare say many pre-owned can be, purchased and flipped for a profit.

Surely the fact you've done it 100 times is testament to that, yes?

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Dimis

That part might be true, but I dare say many pre-owned can be, purchased and flipped for a profit.

Surely the fact you've done it 100 times is testament to that, yes?

I've only personally owned 27 to date, but yes, if you are in the right place, at the right time, you can buy cars for profit .

Yet, with each one you or I buy, you take a chance that there may be something wrong with the car, and that is why the car is being sold in the first place. It's a gamble few are willing to take, preferring to sit back and watch others take those chances.


Bill S.


Bill S.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Having been involved in the sale/resale of over 100 cobra replicas to date, I'll strongly disagree with that statement. It is extremely(EXTREMELY) rare in this day and age to come across an original builder/buyer who can get his original investment out of the car at time of resale.


Bill S.

Now this is strange....
That's not my post (it's been edited) and not even in the correct thread!!

[patty442]

Good evenng too all. Tonight I was called by a friend, a frequest poster and viewer of this forum, who alerts me of posts that might be of interest to me. It has taken quite some time for me to read through this entire thread. I wanted to respond immediately, in a short note, here now, and then prepare a formal and complete response. I have seen hostile exchanges in this thread and several others that I read in the past. I really don't know and of your real names or your CC names. Before anyone jumps all over me, and says who the he-- is this jerk as alluded to above, I suggest they fine a friend's copy of the Spring 2013 SAAC Shelby American magazine online, by a copy of the 2013 annual, or become a member of SAAC. You can read the story of my car and my life with it the THE PARTS. will continue immediately

[patty442]

I suggest they read a friend's copy of the Spring 2013 SAAC Shelby American magazine online, by a copy of the 2013 annual, or become a member of SAAC. and read the story about my car, my life and my parts. I have been called many thngs by many Cobra guys through the years. Mostly a good friend and a little nuts. I have known the principle people for over 40 years. Mike McClusey has called me "The premier original 427 Cobra parts hoarder in the world." We held hands for 40 years during the restoration of my car. Many many times we discussed parts and he said you'll never find that, forget about it. I said I have 18 of them. I knew Ned when he lived in NJ and wanted Geoff Howard to repaint the engine block in one of his early SC's wthout taking the engine out from the chassis. Remember that Ned ? continued

[patty442]

I was a member of SOA, Shelby Owner's Association in the early 70's before there was even a SAAC. I was a member of the first Cobra club, in Michigan, Bruce Jodar president. Rick said he was still around. Still have the club T shirt. On and On. I was the SAAC early convention concours 427 cobra judge, where I created a 10,000 points judging module, yes 10,000 points considering both condition and originality, trying to standardize the judging against an imaginary perfect car. was asked to resign as I was deemed to picky. People were not ready for this type of scrutiny. continued

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by patty442

I suggest they read a friend's copy of the Spring 2013 SAAC Shelby American magazine online, by a copy of the 2013 annual, or become a member of SAAC. and read the story about my car, my life and my parts. I have been called many thngs by many Cobra guys through the years. Mostly a good friend and a little nuts. I have known the principle people for over 40 years. Mike McClusey has called me "The premier original 427 Cobra parts hoarder in the world." We held hands for 40 years during the restoration of my car. Many many times we discussed parts and he said you'll never find that, forget about it. I said I have 18 of them. I knew Ned when he lived in NJ and wanted Geoff Howard to repaint the engine block in one of his early SC's wthout taking the engine out from the chassis. Remember that Ned ? continued

So when you do come back here, if you do maybe you can shed some light on this "stash" Denbeste supposedly acquired from Carroll.

Thanks

[Nedsel]

Originally Posted by patty442

I knew Ned when he lived in NJ and wanted Geoff Howard to repaint the engine block in one of his early SC's wthout taking the engine out from the chassis. Remember that Ned ? continued

Yes, Bob, of course I do. Back then, we used Rustoleum from a can, remember?

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by patty442

Good evenng too all. Tonight I was called by a friend, a frequest poster and viewer of this forum, who alerts me of posts that might be of interest to me. It has taken quite some time for me to read through this entire thread. I wanted to respond immediately, in a short note, here now, and then prepare a formal and complete response. I have seen hostile exchanges in this thread and several others that I read in the past. I really don't know and of your real names or your CC names. Before anyone jumps all over me, and says who the he-- is this jerk as alluded to above, I suggest they fine a friend's copy of the Spring 2013 SAAC Shelby American magazine online, by a copy of the 2013 annual, or become a member of SAAC. You can read the story of my car and my life with it the THE PARTS. will continue immediately

Actually, given the subject matter and the unanswered questions, this thread has been comparatively calm.

If you have information to share...share with sufficient identification for folks to be able to weigh it...rather than tell folks to look elsewhere.

And yes, I'm already aware of who you appear to be. Do it for the others here if you want them to know.

Thanks

[fordracing65]

So, would you ever buy one of these OEM part cars, huh???

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Now this is strange....
That's not my post (it's been edited)

I fixed it for you (the changes were supposed to be in red, but I guess I messed up the quote, sorry)

It should have shown up like this:

Originally Posted by Bernica

Yes, several of them do.
Shelby, Kirkham, ERA, Contemporary, FFR, SPF, Unique, Classic Auto Carriage, Street Beast, Road Serpent , Backdraft to name a few seem to do quite well. I'm sure someone will let me know which ones I forgot to list!

See

Originally Posted by Bernica

not even in the correct thread!!

Well, it actually is in this thread, post # 436 to be exact


Bill S.