Mystery solved. Shelby Trust to sell Real Cobras

[RodKnock]

Tony & Evan, please use the correct spelling of McCluskey. Not McClusky. Holy cow, he's only been around for a few decades building Cobras and Daytona Coupes. Get it right.

[RodKnock]

You two are sounding a lot like these guys:

[LMH]

What they should do is drop the "X" from "CSX" since these frames are not exported from England. Maybe add a "D" for "Domestic" since the cars are being manufactured here.
Larry

[kanuck]

Inquiring minds want to know, are the bodies going to be uneven and not symmetrical just like they originals?

Dean

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by kanuck

Inquiring minds want to know, are the bodies going to be uneven and not symmetrical just like they originals?

Dean

Gauge of aluminum?

[kanuck]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Gauge of aluminum?

No I mean the front fenders, the rear flares, they radiator and oil coolers openings, and a few other things I might be missing, most of them if not all have been corrected over time. but when they were new if you lined up a dozen of them in a row you could see the differences. and just a note. I don't mean this as slam, I mentioning this as it was part of there charm each one being unique.

Dean


PS: I live down the street from Tasca Ford, and have had some pretty cool conversations with some of they old timers.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by kanuck

No I mean the front fenders, the rear flares, they radiator and oil coolers openings, and a few other things I might be missing, most of them if not all have been corrected over time. but when they were new if you lined up a dozen of them in a row you could see the differences. and just a note. I don't mean this as slam, I mentioning this as it was part of there charm each one being unique.

Dean


PS: I live down the street from Tasca Ford, and have had some pretty cool conversations with some of they old timers.

As I have said many times before, you could line up 30 originals and every one will be different!

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by kanuck

No I mean the front fenders, the rear flares, they radiator and oil coolers openings, and a few other things I might be missing, most of them if not all have been corrected over time. but when they were new if you lined up a dozen of them in a row you could see the differences. and just a note. I don't mean this as slam, I mentioning this as it was part of there charm each one being unique.

Dean


PS: I live down the street from Tasca Ford, and have had some pretty cool conversations with some of they old timers.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant what gauge aluminum are they using in the new completion series? The originals had a much thinner gauge then the current series. Its just another detail.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant what gauge aluminum are they using in the new completion series? The originals had a much thinner gauge then the current series. Its just another detail.

Per the old FAQ section on the Kirkham website, the 1960's 3000 series was made with 0.050" gauge aluminum. The Kirkham body was 0.059" thick. Not sure what they're using today and what anyone is using for the Resurrection Series.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant what gauge aluminum are they using in the new completion series? The originals had a much thinner gauge then the current series. Its just another detail.

I didn't ask. But I would assume that the Kirkham is their standard. Drews are hand rolled so might indeed show some asymmetry.

[RodKnock]

On Cobra Country, CSX4094 was recently listed. CSX4094 is 1 of 4 Bill Elliott Editions:

http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4sa...4-ny-plaks.jpg

Very nice. I wonder where these 4 Shelby Cobras fit in the hierarchy of Limited & Special Edition Shelby Cobras. Above or below the CSX3000 "Resurrection" Cobras? Personally, I'm a Gumball Rally fan more than a Bill Elliott fan.

[g8rnbft]

Pardon for interrupting (newbie), but how did the members or directors of a charitable trust become in possession of all these parts that supposedly at one time were the bread and butter of a manufacturing enterprise that still exists. How and why/when did the transfer come about???

[twobjshelbys]

Csx3060 vs 30601 doesn't seem to have the "those that shall not be named" status of a few others here but it's gotta be close. It's a gorgeous car none the less

[Jamo]

Yup...but it sure as hell takes up less room.

I hate Rolex watches any way...too damn small. Got my first Panerai in 98 when only Sly and Awnold knew WTF they were...now everybody has a weird crown protector. So recently I go for stuff that even the magicians in Hong Kong have a tough time duplicating...Omega Ploprof, Doxa, Ball.

We haven't heard the final story yet on these super-duper continuation thingies because nobody's thought it up yet.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Yup...but it sure as hell takes up less room.

I hate Rolex watches any way...too damn small. Got my first Panerai in 98 when only Sly and Awnold knew WTF they were...now everybody has a weird crown protector. So recently I go for stuff that even the magicians in Hong Kong have a tough time duplicating...Omega Ploprof, Doxa, Ball.

We haven't heard the final story yet on these super-duper continuation thingies because nobody's thought it up yet.

Hold on there Buster Brown. Is it the watch that's is too damn small or just perhaps..., maybe...., going out on a limb here...., could it be........your wrist is too damn big? Just extrapolating from you a$$ in your Avatar.

I have 4 Rolex's including the gold Presidents and they all look GREAT on my wrist.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I have 4 Rolex's including the gold Presidents and they all look GREAT on my wrist.

Why does Jamo always derail threads with watch talk? If there isn't a more superfluous item known to mankind then I don't know what it is.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Why does Jamo always derail threads with watch talk? If there isn't a more superfluous item known to mankind then I don't know what it is.

Because watch discussions have persistence attributes after a while whereas the weather does not.

I know forums that have whole topics dedicated to watches...

[fordracing65]

I drive a Fake Shelby Cobra, and I wear a fake Rolex watch while doing it, I'm all about the kit car, kit watch, lifestyle, and the best part about it, nobody who sees my car or watch can tell they are not REAL...and the stories I can make up about them both, as this was the same car raced at the 1966 LeMans by Sergio Smith while he was wearing this exact watch, he won the race and that's why the car is worth 7 million dollars...the watch I'm going to donate to the Rolex race museum in Hamburg, Germany... AHH, story time is the best...these new Shelbys are perfect them...

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Why does Jamo always derail threads with watch talk? If there isn't a more superfluous item known to mankind then I don't know what it is.

Because he's a "MODERATOR" and a bully and he can do as he pleases.




P.S.
Actually he is a very good moderator IMHO.

[NewYorkGuy]

Donbeste is a businessman, it is smart business to 'rewrite' Shelby history and get rid of all old shelby parts. It's basically 50++ year old junk without a chassis/ body and a 'really good story."

cobra guys will forget and forgive McCluskey for faking chassis. I'm told he and his company does great car restoration.

Mr. Kirkham calls these 'cars' a work of art? are they? most art and art historians judge art by artists and originality, one offs. Picasso painted himself. he didn't hire a team to mix his paints or paint for him.

if the facts are correct, there are 2 new 'competition' Cobras, built by two different companies with one car part source- DonBeste. is that art or just great forgery?

I spent my youth plugged into the art scene in NYC and interned at Sotheby's NYC. This type of 'shelby art" would be considered as forgery and a crime. no respected gallery, art historian, or museum would do business like Shelby.

I guess car art is different. car people will pay top dollar for a really good story.

go back to MrMustang quote on page 1 of this thread, "greed makes good people do..."