Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

[Paul F]

That is so cool. I wish I could do art like that.

[REAL 1]

Yeah, its cute. Doesn't establish anything. I prefer not to use insults with words or pictures or art. Juvenile. I stick to the facts, law and Registry.

I thought Buzz was above that. Guess not. Sour grapes too I guess. He posts that on a thread dedicated to this subject? Hey Buzz grow up.

Boy those facts, law and Registry really must hurt and irritate you guys.

A lot of guys on this site are really really low class.

I guess the plan is to humiliate, insult and intimidate the view you don't like and silence it.

That ain't happening.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Yeah, its cute. Doesn't establish anything. I prefer not to use insults with words or pictures or art. Juvenile. I stick to the facts, law and Registry.

I thought Buzz was above that. Guess not. Sour grapes too I guess. He posts that on a thread dedicated to this subject? Hey Buzz grow up.

Boy those facts, law and Registry really must hurt and irritate you guys.

A lot of guys on this site are really really low class.

I guess the plan is to humiliate, insult and intimidate the view you don't like and silence it.

That ain't happening.

Hey buddy, take a happy pill. The minute you learn to laugh a little at yourself trust me on this - life will be so much more pleasant. Put yourself in others' shoes and take a look at how you come across. I seriously have no dog in this fight and nothing against you or Continuation CSX Cobras, but this $hit is funny as hell. Quit taking all this so seriously.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

A lot of guys on this site are really really low class.

And that's not an insult either right? Because we have a difference of opinion, I have really really low class?

Evan, multiple Rolexes and fancy cars doesn't buy anyone class.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

... I prefer not to use insults with words or pictures or art. Juvenile. I stick to the facts, law and Registry ...

Good to know!

Originally Posted by REAL 1

... You are clearly full of crap. (and a troll).

Seriously Evan, explain how your csx4206 ad got posted but had this "add error" that you missed.

"DON'T MISS THIS RARE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN AN ORIGINAL SHELBY AMERICAN COBRA WITH THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL AT A PRICE YOU COULD NOT DUPLICATE IT FOR.
Call Evan Harris for details"

We all know when you place an ad, you review it before it gets listed, you correct it if it has errors, you see the ad exactly how it is going to list, then you submit the ad if happy. So please do explain how this bullsh!t got through, there has to be a perfectly reasonable explanation

[LMH]

Hey question for you guys in between insults. When the glass 4000 series cars were being made, was there an original used as the model? Was it a Kirkham? How did it come to production?
Larry

[Joe's Garage]

"DON'T MISS THIS RARE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN AN ORIGINAL SHELBY AMERICAN COBRA WITH THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL AT A PRICE YOU COULD NOT DUPLICATE IT FOR.
Call Evan Harris for details"

Seriously Evan, with your keen eye for the facts, the law, the registry - how did this fraudulent description get through?

[RodKnock]

Speaking of insults, I do seem to remember that whole "separating wheat and chaff" dustup, when you referred to a Shelby replica as wheat and the rest of us non-Shelby replica owners as having chaff. And then you tried to walk it back. Yes, I remember that one about 30 pages ago.

[Joe's Garage]

I wonder if Evan's wife knows what a total ass he has made out of himself talking about her car

[fordracing65]

Anyone want to buy a car cover, I have one for sale...

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

I wonder if Evan's wife knows what a total ass he has made out of himself talking about her car

I think she knows!

[RodKnock]

I thought you left this merry-go-round?

Certain liberties were taken with the Registry. Ned is in the record with that statement. The Regsitry uses terms such as true replica and Cobra-like. You've already admitted multiple times that you own a replica. The 2004 statement has long been superceded by today's SAAC website, which has deleted the word genuine and calls your car (SAAC menu item) a Component Cobra.

Facts, Registry ("certain liberties" 2008 and Future "all replicas deleted" 2018 versions), Fraud (not made in 1965), Ned The Curator, Deleted SAAC Website Statement, etc.

Let's call a spade a spade already.

[Joe's Garage]

Edited to correct multiple errors -

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Very simply the SAAC position in 2004 is clear. Same position today. It's all the 4th Edition of the World Registry.

Already discussed the add [it's ad unless you mean 2+2] which was clarified as I recall based on the SAAC statement as existed in 2004 years before the litigation SAAC had with CS as the "curator" claimed. The SAAC has never classified continuations as ORIGINALS [Agree, so why did you list your csx4206 as an ORIGINAL and not CONTINUATION?] You are welcome to think I was trying to pass the car off as an original. [But you were, it's all there in black and white] The two buyers who were fighting over the car knew exactly what it was. [Of course, it's called due diligence before making a purchase]

Fact is the majority here refer to the cars as Cobras. [Yes, they are cobra replicas, none of them claim to be REAL like you] When in actuality they are not. Only Shelbys original and current production along with those select few have that "distinction" according to SAAC and the 4th World Registry. [Incorrect, Shelby originals have the distinction, current production models are true-Replicas and very Cobra-like Replicas]

Ironically many here have them registered as '65s or '66's which they are not, False. [Misleading, part of the special provisions the DMV provides for replicas of historic cars may require that some get registered according to the year their car replicates, different states different requirements. In your state you follow the "Kit Car" process to get registered, and it may require the year of the car your kit car replicates] They are in fact pretend Cobras to get right to it. [Agreed, just like your csx4206] Nothing wrong with that it's just what it is. I guess many of you are insulted to be told what you already know but don't want to really say. [Incorrect, you are insulted to be told what you already know but don't want to really say, Buzz's caricature of you was right on the money and has many "likes" because he nailed it]

Ironically, many here have plates that state expressly or impliedly represent they have and are driving a Cobra or 65 Cobra or 66 Cobra. [None say REAL like yours, they are Cobras of the Replica variety just like yours]

No insults needed. Just the facts, law and registry. [This statement is now true based on the above revisions and clarifications] ...

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Edited to correct multiple errors -

Twisting again.

Nothing except those cars identified as "Cobras" in the Registry are "Cobras". Period. The rest are cars that "pretend" or "fake" to be Cobras. So referring to the fakes as Cobras is technically incorrect. You own a Cobra? No, if you own anything its something that pretends to be one. Whatever that is.

Many here do have plates that clearly state their car or clearly imply their car is a Cobra. One such example "66COBRA". It is no such thing. Is it?

My plate is 100% fair and legitimate. Read the Registry. Its all there. Sorry.

Flame on.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Twisting again.

Nothing except those cars identified as "Cobras" in the Registry are "Cobras". Period. The rest are cars that "pretend" or "fake" to be Cobras. So referring to the fakes as Cobras is technically incorrect. You own a Cobra? No, if you own anything its something that pretends to be one. Whatever that is.

Many here do have plates that clearly state their car or clearly imply their car is a Cobra. One such example "66COBRA". It is no such thing. Is it?

My plate is 100% fair and legitimate. Read the Registry. Its all there. Sorry.

Flame on.

Here we have Evan, The Chief of Policing License Plates. That's relevant.

You keep rocking on about license plates.

Weren't genuine Cobras sold thru 1968? If so, couldn't an owner of a genuine or replica Cobra have a license plate that reads 68COBRA and still be "proper"? And who really cares about license plates. Oy vey.

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Twisting again.

Nothing except those cars identified as "Cobras" in the Registry are "Cobras". Period. The rest are cars that "pretend" or "fake" to be Cobras. So referring to the fakes as Cobras is technically incorrect. You own a Cobra? No, if you own anything its something that pretends to be one. Whatever that is.

Many here do have plates that clearly state their car or clearly imply their car is a Cobra. One such example "66COBRA". It is no such thing. Is it?

My plate is 100% fair and legitimate. Read the Registry. Its all there. Sorry.

Flame on.

Dodge and deflect.

Dodge and deflect.

Typical lawyer rhetoric.

What's the statute of limitations for misrepresenting your cobra. Guess it must be less than 11 years.

[Joe's Garage]

Only one question remains -

Per Evan "The SAAC has never classified continuations as ORIGINALS".

So Evan, why did you list your csx4206 as an ORIGINAL and not a CONTINUATION?

[REAL 1]

Back in those days there was some confusion as to how these cars would be considered. SAAC itself issued a statement clarifying their view. They were correct.

Again, my intent was to describe the car as a genuine Shelby. It is an original continuation Shelby though. The add was clarified.

The end.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Back in those days there was some confusion as to how these cars would be considered. SAAC itself issued a statement clarifying their view. They were correct ...

Try again -

No confusion as what is an ORIGINAL, it's always been a 1960's Shelby Cobra.

So Evan, why did you list your csx4206 as an ORIGINAL and not a CONTINUATION?

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Back in those days there was some confusion as to how these cars would be considered. SAAC itself issued a statement clarifying their view. They were correct ...

You bought csx4206 as a Continuation Series csx4000 Cobra.

Why did you list your csx4206 Continuation as an ORIGINAL and not a CONTINUATION?