my first disgusted spectator

ZOERA-SC7XX · #1 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 05:34 PM

Just came across this thread, and I can't get over 'non-owners' getting all bent up about what engine we may have in our 'replica' Cobra. While my own ERA has a 428 FE, it's just about looks. I actually considered a BBC (big HP for less cash) until Peter gave me the 'talk' about accuracy and resale etc. A well-healed side oiler costs at least double what a comparable big block Chevy would. Lots of Cobras out there with Windsor engines that are no more 'incorrect' than a Chevy would be. I have no problem with owners installing Chevys or just about anything else that would run well. If it becomes an issue, just keep the hood closed. Just my opinion, of course.
P.S. Carroll originally wanted Chevy power for the early Cobras. Just think what the 427 Cobras would have looked like under the hood if that scenario came to pass.

patrickt · #2 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Lots of Cobras out there with Windsor engines that are no more 'incorrect' than a Chevy would be.

Ehhh, I don't know about that. At least with a Windsor you have the right manufacturer, just the wrong size. With a BBC, you kind of have the right size, just the wrong manufacturer. But if you insist on lumping Windsors in 427 cars in to the same dung hole as bow ties in Cobras, then I'll end up agreeing with you long before I take issue with you.

RodKnock · #3 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 06:28 PM

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But if you insist on lumping Windsors in 427 cars in to the same dung hole as bow ties in Cobras, then I'll end up agreeing with you long before I take issue with you.

Now that is funny.

Now would a Viper V10 in a Cobra make a difference in anyone's opinion?

(that's rhetorical of course)

Speaking of dungholes, if you're going to lump Windsors in 427 cars into the same category as a BBC, then I have to say that "dual roll bar" Cobras may have to follow them down into the same dunghole.

4pipes · #4 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 06:44 PM

There was a guy out here that put a Ferrari V12 in a Cobra. It was called a Cobrari.

http://www.alfarex.com/services/weber.html

dcdoug · #5 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Now would a Viper V10 in a Cobra make a difference in anyone's opinion?

Sure, it would make your cobra sound like a UPS truck AND look wrong at the same time.

I have never seen an engine that looks cooler, goes like he11 and sounds worse than the Viper V10.

RodKnock · #6 (**permalink**) 05-24-2010, 10:46 PM

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Sure, it would make your cobra sound like a UPS truck AND look wrong at the same time.

I have never seen an engine that looks cooler, goes like he11 and sounds worse than the Viper V10.

Ah come on. At least you would have a snake on the valve covers instead of Chevy or Corvette. Or worse, and M/T.

Shelby helped Dodge with the Viper and he helped AC and Ford a little with the Cobra.

dcdoug · #7 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Ah come on. At least you would have a snake on the valve covers instead of Chevy or Corvette. Or worse, and M/T.

Shelby helped Dodge with the Viper and he helped AC and Ford a little with the Cobra.

I love the look of that engine and it gets points from me as an interesting interpretation for a cobra. But I could never live with a "wheezy" engine.

RodKnock · #8 (**permalink**) 06-07-2010, 12:32 PM

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I love the look of that engine and it gets points from me as an interesting interpretation for a cobra. But I could never live with a "wheezy" engine.

There's a Cobra on Cobra County with a Viper V10.

http://cobracountry.com/cobra4salefo...-oh-engine.jpg

Sorry, I kinda like it.

Great Asp · #9 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

then I have to say that "dual roll bar" Cobras may have to follow them down into the same dunghole.

Who would commit such sacrilege???

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lovehamr · #10 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

Ehhh, I don't know about that. At least with a Windsor you have the right manufacturer, just the wrong size. With a BBC, you kind of have the right size, just the wrong manufacturer. But if you insist on lumping Windsors in 427 cars in to the same dung hole as bow ties in Cobras, then I'll end up agreeing with you long before I take issue with you.

I have a stroked 428 in mine and though it would have been much easier to have put a small block in it, it just wouldn't have been right for me. My next Cobra may get a small block, though it will definitely be a Ford. It's also worth noting that there are some very hi profile Cobra people who believe the 9.5" small block engine is perfect for a "427" Cobra and that includes Bob Bondurant.

Steve

patrickt · #11 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lovehamr

I have a stroked 428 in mine and though it would have been much easier to have put a small block in it, it just wouldn't have been right for me. My next Cobra may get a small block, though it will definitely be a Ford. It's also worth noting that there are some very hi profile Cobra people who believe the 9.5" small block engine is perfect for a "427" Cobra and that includes Bob Bondurant.

It is written that once you have built a reasonably correct Cobra, then, and only then, are you entitled to substantially deviate from the norm. The fact that you originally went the "extra distance" with your 428PI, coupled with your avatar, now permits you to build a subsequent 427 car with a small block, or similar faux pas. Of course, this "license to deviate" is non-transferable, thus it is only of value to subsequent purchasers of your car who, themselves, have previously built reasonably accurate cars.

RodKnock · #12 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 09:51 AM

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It's also worth noting that there are some very hi profile Cobra people who believe the 9.5" small block engine is perfect for a "427" Cobra and that includes Bob Bondurant.Steve

I want a list of these "high profile" Cobra people. All I know is that I better be on this list.

CobraEd · #13 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 10:15 AM

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I want a list of these "high profile" Cobra people. All I know is that I better be on this list.

I used to be a high profile person, . . but I got sick !!!

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Ron61 · #14 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 10:33 AM

Ernie,

I am not sure now what Thunder Hill would consider as to much power. Back when I had mine, the 530 horse was ok, but they inspected the suspension and everything closely to be sure it would stand that power. I know there have been some changes in the rules in the past few years but since I haven't been there for some time I don't know exactly what they may be now. I do know that mine would have been to loud now for me to run it there as they have set noise limits. I remember people racing there with open exhausts when I used to go. And I am sure that some of the other tracks may have rules that vary some depending on where they are and such.

Ron