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06-01-2016, 05:44 PM
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Change them all for Allens
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06-01-2016, 05:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA, 428, 4 speed Toploader, Jag rear, Red with White stripes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
David,
Yours is very nice as well. The turkey pan looks clean enough to eat off of! Turkey on a turkey pan sounds good right now! (:
Phil
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Thanks Phil.
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06-01-2016, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernica
If your have the abilities and resources, just make your own custom socket.
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Yes, if I had those abilities, we would not be talking about it would we
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06-01-2016, 05:57 PM
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06-01-2016, 06:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHANMADD
Change them all for Allens
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Good thought, but still would not be able to torque them.
I can get on both of them with these:
6 PC SAE Flex Socket and Open Wrench Set Standard Automotive Shop Unique Tools | eBay
I bought these from e-bay last night.
still wont be able to torque though. As I said earlier, I borrowed one from a friend and it does work. I tried to match effort to one of the bolts that I torqued to 20 lbs, without a cheater bar, it wont move. no leverage and awkward position.
I really don't want to go there.
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06-01-2016, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaz64
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No Gary, way to long. That is the same as what Ted posted
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06-01-2016, 06:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Originally Posted by davids2toys
Yes, if I had those abilities, we would not be talking about it would we
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Sorry, just trying to help. I have been to Snap-On and MAC tools guys with what I thought was impossible and they came up with something. Worth a try anyways...
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06-01-2016, 06:35 PM
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that might be a path, but that would be a last resort. Sounds expensive
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06-02-2016, 04:48 AM
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Stick a wrench on that thing and pull on it. You're not going to break anything with a 9/16" wrench, I promise. Shouldn't take 5 days to tighten an intake bolt....
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06-02-2016, 05:11 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
Stick a wrench on that thing and pull on it. You're not going to break anything with a 9/16" wrench, I promise. Shouldn't take 5 days to tighten an intake bolt....
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Just use a stubby. If you can strip the threads on your manifold, using a stubby, bending down and over a Cobra's fender well, then we'll send you to the Olympics.
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06-02-2016, 05:16 AM
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You could replace them with allen head bolts as suggested above. They make allen head socket sets in 3/8 inch drive. If you have a 1/2 torque wrench you can use an adaptor. At 25 lb ft the adaptor will not make any difference.
But, I'm kind of with Blykins - just snug it up with what ever will fit on it.
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06-02-2016, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
Stick a wrench on that thing and pull on it. You're not going to break anything with a 9/16" wrench, I promise. Shouldn't take 5 days to tighten an intake bolt....
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Exactly right.
A normal length spanner that is, none of the current long ring spanners.
I've seen some cause a world of hurt with these.
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06-02-2016, 10:36 PM
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Brent: First of all, I have not been near the car for over a week. I try and have a clear path of remedying a situation before I go further. When I rush things, I end up in trouble! Besides that, I have a lot of other stuff going on in my life than just my Cobra. In fact I have not driven it yet this year. House projects and recovering from knee surgery 4 weeks ago.
To be clear. I cannot get any kind of wrench on these two bolts. Except that flex socket/open end combo, that will go on. Again, I do not have your experience or touch. I don't trust my feel like you trust yours. I believe in Torquing and it has kept me out of trouble. when I start just tightening things, I tend to over do it...I have broken a couple of things in the past and I do not want any repeat performances...so yes, I am a little anal.
9/16? Not really sure what you mean here...my bolts are 3/8 not 9/16. Or are you saying to use the 9/16 over a stubby as a cheater bar for leverage?
If the fuel log was not there, I would have no issue. My old cobra had no fuel log and I was able re-toque that manifold. When I get back to it, I will probably just pull the carb, then I can work on it from another angle.
Today I found a 1/4" drive, very short open 12 pt crows foot, I think they would call this a flare. Same as this only 1/4" drive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1907565...2F190756544479
I would be stepping up to adapt to my 3/8 drive torque wrench. Do you think the 3/8' drive to 1/4' drive adapter will hold up at 25 ft lbs? How about the open 12 point crows foot
Dan: as I said earlier, converting to Allens won't help anything. It would be the exact same issue as I have now. I have no room for adapters or Torque wrenches on these two bolts. they are to close to the intake runners! All the allens would let me do is stick a 90 deg allen wrench in it. Now were just pulling on it and hoping for the best. I am sure it would not be tight enough anyway. Again, maybe if the carb was off, things would be better, but it would still be far from a straight shot, Maybe with one of those universal sockets.
Patrick: I am not worried about stripping the threads in the intake. I think you mean the heads right? Anyway, if I was only using a stubby as you say, it would not be possible and it would not be tight enough. I want to do it right using a torque wrench or a method to achieve the called out Torque. I do not like or trust the "Good n Tight" method!
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06-02-2016, 10:50 PM
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David,
I think you would snap a 3/8 to 1/4 adaptor before you got to 25 lbft.
Are you able to post a pic of the area you are trying to get into?
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06-03-2016, 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaz64
David,
I think you would snap a 3/8 to 1/4 adaptor before you got to 25 lbft.
Are you able to post a pic of the area you are trying to get into?
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Yes, that was my concern also.
I took a few shots. The one that shows it the best is in the black hole, so you cant see the head of the fastener. That is the forward hole. A couple of these pics look like there is more room than there actually is. The pic showing the whole side, the fasteners are the ones behind the fuel bowl lines
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06-03-2016, 08:14 AM
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Boy, those are tight. Mine were nothing compared to that. I think I only needed the crow's foot on one of them. Two at the most.
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06-03-2016, 08:31 AM
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Thank you!
I guess I should have post pics in the first place.
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06-03-2016, 09:28 AM
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In the past I've cut down a 3/8" socket to make it as short as possible and used it with either a swivel extension or a universal joint type extension. If that could work you wouldn't be able to get a torque wrench reading but you could measure the travel, as I outlined in my prior post.
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06-03-2016, 10:17 AM
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Understood. If I am going to do it this way, I will just use the 3/8 flex sock/open end combo I ordered and measure the movement. I will have to put a cheater bar over the end to gain leverage.
I also assume you are marking the bolt to the manifold to measure movement right?
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06-03-2016, 12:47 PM
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Nope, I don't mark the bolts. I just eyeball the travel of the wrench.
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