How do you answer, "Is it real?"

[twobjshelbys]

Oh no, not again. There will be nothing new said because all of this has already been said at least 10 times.

If you have a CSX you have a REAL SHELBY COBRA, just not an ORIGINAL SHELBY COBRA. In most cases the uneducated are asking for an answer to the latter question.

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Oh no, not again. There will be nothing new said because all of this has already been said at least 10 times.

If you have a CSX you have a REAL SHELBY COBRA, just not an ORIGINAL SHELBY COBRA. In most cases the uneducated are asking for an answer to the latter question.

well said, I really don't understand why people to get this... SMH

[patrickt]

Now, when people ask me, "is that real?" I tell them "you bet it is! and what's more, this was Carrol's personal Cobra that he hand built himself." They then take pics, call their friends, go away happy and I feel better about the whole exchange.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

well said, I really don't understand why people to get this... SMH

The interesting thing was when I had my car it happened almost every time I took it out. Most had no idea what the car was or even who Shelby was, only that they had never seen one before so they got the short history lesson of the 60's versions and the continuation cars still being made by Shelby. Others said (and I'm not kidding) "Carroll Shelby still makes cars? I thought he was dead". No kidding. Others weren't any more interested than had it been a Model T and just knew it had to be "old" but weren't really interested in knowing the gory details just the basics. With the "Ford V Ferrari" movie the interest in Cobras might be greater now for a while.

[patrickt]

Remember, it's not the reality of what they're seeing that matters but rather the perception of what they're seeing. If they believe it to be real, then it is real... to them, at least.

[eschaider]

Most of the time I just say it's a Stage XLVii. Then they ask what's that and I say I don't know! That's what the guy I bought it from told me. The conversation usually ends fairly quickly ...


Ed

[patrickt]

More people now ask me what the car is, rather than if it's real. I got pulled over last year by a local LEO and when she got out of her car she said "this is the most beautiful car I've ever seen - what is it?" And, no, I didn't get a ticket.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

More people now ask me what the car is, rather than if it's real. I got pulled over last year by a local LEO and when she got out of her car she said "this is the most beautiful car I've ever seen - what is it?" And, no, I didn't get a ticket.

I call BS. No way the LEO thought BEIGE was beautiful. No chance.

[t walgamuth]

Originally Posted by eschaider

Most of the time I just say it's a Stage XLVii. Then they ask what's that and I say I don't know! That's what the guy I bought it from told me. The conversation usually ends fairly quickly ...


Ed

hah hah!

[FredG]

The CSX cars are meaningful to those who have them and place some importance on authenticity. I admire their loyalty but that's where it ends. They are not the best. They are not the fastest, best handling or even best looking. It's like arguing which are better.....fake tits or real tits. Just sayin......

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by FredG

It's like arguing which are better.....fake tits or real tits. Just sayin......

I did not broach that issue with the LEO.

[RodKnock]

Here's the 64-pager where Evan was almost banned for good.

Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

SAAC doesn't even mention the Shelby replicas anymore. Next volume of the World Registry will not have them (Shelby replicas) or the Kirkhams.

Here's the thread where Evan was finally banned (and bought a Porsche):

The "Cooler King returns".

4 years later, here we are again. History repeats itself.

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Here's the 64-pager where Evan was almost banned for good.

Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

SAAC doesn't even mention the Shelby replicas anymore. Next volume of the World Registry will not have them (Shelby replicas) or the Kirkhams.

Here's the thread where Evan was finally banned (and bought a Porsche):

The "Cooler King returns".

4 years later, here we are again. History repeats itself.

I think you meant to say continuation shelbys, How can a shelby be a replica of a shelby... ? just saying no disrespect.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

I think you meant to say continuation shelbys, How can a shelby be a replica of a shelby... ? just saying no disrespect.

Yep, a CSX 4000/6000/7000/8000/9000 is a good old replica. No disrespect taken at all.

Read the 64 pages where we argued until the thread was closed. And read the Registry. Shelby didn't want to call them replicas, so he had the grand idea to call them "continuation" Cobras. And anyway, Shelby sold most of the company to an LBO firm a long time ago.

I'm getting too old for this S.

There were 998 (or whatever) REAL Shelby Cobras made. And the next Registry won't include the Shelby or Kirkham replicas. Just the Cobras made between 1962-1967 (or whatever).

But you can them anything you want. What do I care.

[patrickt]

No, his new Shelby is a real Shelby Cobra. Once again, you is wrong.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

No, his new Shelby is a real Shelby Cobra. Once again, you is wrong.

Who would paint a Cobra beige? And no one stopped you, which in it of itself should be an accessory to a crime.

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yep, a CSX 4000/6000/7000/8000/9000 is a good old replica. No disrespect taken at all.

Read the 64 pages where we argued until the thread was closed. And read the Registry. Shelby didn't want to call them replicas, so he had the grand idea to call them "continuation" Cobras. And anyway, Shelby sold most of the company to an LBO firm a long time ago.

I'm getting too old for this S.

There were 998 (or whatever) REAL Shelby Cobras made. And the next Registry won't include the Shelby or Kirkham replicas. Just the Cobras made between 1962-1967 (or whatever).

But you can them anything you want. What do I care.

A Shelby cobra is in FACT a Shelby cobra.. any one who disagrees has a numb skull. are the continuation original 60's cars? no. is a 2019 Ford GT a real Ford GT? yes, is it a 60's GT no.. same EXACT example... SMH

[patrickt]

A couple of years ago I was at a car show and someone walked up and said "wow, is that a real ERA?" Now what was I supposed to say? "no, it's a replica ERA."

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

A Shelby cobra is in FACT a Shelby cobra.. any one who disagrees has a numb skull. are the continuation original 60's cars? no. is a 2019 Ford GT a real Ford GT? yes, is it a 60's GT no.. same EXACT example... SMH

Like this: https://www.amazon.ca/photos/share/5...YouzccGJb2gdgg

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

A Shelby cobra is in FACT a Shelby cobra.. any one who disagrees has a numb skull. are the continuation original 60's cars? no. is a 2019 Ford GT a real Ford GT? yes, is it a 60's GT no.. same EXACT example... SMH

Numb skull?

You gotta read the 64-page thread, among many others. And read the old World Registry. It’s spelled out there in black and white. The new World Registry won’t even list the new Shelby Cobras. All this nonsense is addressed there.

Oooooh. The 2019 Ford GT is not a 1965 Ford GT40. No parts are shared, the body is completely different and technology and materials have changed dramatically. It’s not a replica, nor a continuation, because it’s a completely different car that is sold 100% complete with warranty. You can drive it right off the dealer lot without a special emissions and safety exemption from Federal laws unlike a Shelby Cobra replica kit car.

Search the thread for the Dodge Challenger or the watch examples. There are several other examples. Same BS. Different year. Your car has very little in common with the 1962-1967 Shelby Cobras. Most parts and materials are different, bodies are different (don’t get me started on fiberglass Shelby’s).

It’s a kit car sold to us, the public, as an incomplete roller. But believe the hype and marketing, what do I care. Delude yourself.