Grab Your Ankles Al Gore!

[Ralphy]

30 Years of Global Cooling Are Coming, Leading Scientist Says



http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...ng-scientists/

[Joe Wicked]

I love how the warmer temperatures were from Global Warming and these colder temps now are also a product of Global Warming. So basically no matter what weather patterns do it is because of the GW. What a bunch of crock.

[Excaliber]

I am having a little trouble following that logic as well. Apparently the next 30 year "mini ice age" is just a bump in the road on the way to warmer temps?? OOkkkk then....

[Joe Wicked]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

I am having a little trouble following that logic as well. Apparently the next 30 year "mini ice age" is just a bump in the road on the way to warmer temps?? OOkkkk then....

To me that would say that man made GW is false. If it was caused by man there is no way enough change has happened to create a mini ice age. I also like who is claiming this. Sounds like he just jumped ship from Global Warming Crisis to Global Cooling Crisis.

[Ron61]

One explanation as to how Global Warming is causing colder Winters. The ocean current that flows to the Equator and back up the coast with the warm water which transfers heat makes its turn by Iceland I believe it is. As the ice melts, cold, fresh water forces the current deeper, therefore when it makes it next trip by the Equator it is deeper and picks up less heat. It is like an endless loop that is sinking farther every time it goes by where the glaciers are melting.

Ron

[Joe Wicked]

Originally Posted by Ron61

One explanation as to how Global Warming is causing colder Winters. The ocean current that flows to the Equator and back up the coast with the warm water which transfers heat makes its turn by Iceland I believe it is. As the ice melts, cold, fresh water forces the current deeper, therefore when it makes it next trip by the Equator it is deeper and picks up less heat. It is like an endless loop that is sinking farther every time it goes by where the glaciers are melting.

Ron

My question on that is if it draws less heat up, then won't the ice melt less?

[Ron61]

Joe,

If what they say is correct the water isn't what is melting the ice. As the ice cover shrinks and more land becomes uncovered we lose the area of reflection of the sun plus the ground soaks up heat and adds to the melting process. I know that most of the huge glaciers in Glacier National Park have melted in the past years but that could be just a normal cycle. I really don't buy into the Global Warming is the cause of everything theory.

Ron

[Gunner]

Let's just say that one scientist's headline-grabbing announcement, as pandered by Faux News, has about as much value as a fart in a windstorm. The topic and the position don't really matter; you can find "a top scientist" who will express damn near any opinion you can imagine, especially if the cameras are rolling.

As with the effects of global climate change, it's the whole and not any specifics that matter.

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by Gunner

As with the effects of global climate change, it's the whole and not any specifics that matter.

Maybe for you that's true. I'm personally more concerned about the weather where I live than the weather where anyone else including you lives.

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by Tommy

Maybe for you that's true. I'm personally more concerned about the weather where I live than the weather where anyone else including you lives.

Which has nothing to do with what I said. Climate CHANGE means that the climate in any one place on earth will change - it may get warmer, cooler, wetter or dryer. It's the totality of that that's important rather than what any one expert says on any one news day about it.

Your weather likely will change - likely has changed over the last decade. I know it has here in the Central Valley. But "global warming" doesn't mean you'll be living in a desert next week.

[Ron61]

Originally Posted by Gunner

Let's just say that one scientist's headline-grabbing announcement, as pandered by Faux News, has about as much value as a fart in a windstorm. The topic and the position don't really matter; you can find "a top scientist" who will express damn near any opinion you can imagine, especially if the cameras are rolling.

As with the effects of global climate change, it's the whole and not any specifics that matter.

Then you discount the theory that the ocean currents have a lot to do with our weather. What about El Nineo ( spelling )? Is that a figment of some scientists imagination? We have had 4 year of drought up here because the jet stream has changed course and I used to live in Santa Barbara and the Fresno area, so I am aware of what the weather can be like. Warming here could possibly cause a small ice age in Europe or other places but I do agree with you on the fact that a lot of it is speculation.

Ron

[Wayne Maybury]

The climate on this planet has always changed. What happens today, this week, or this year really isn't all that important. What will happen over the next 100 or 200 years is far more important. IF indeed the average temperature of the planet increases by several degrees, the ice on Anartica will begin to melt and the level of the oceans will rise placing many cities in danger.

Some people are playing the global warming theme for profit. Some just want to be on TV. I have no idea if we really are seeing global warming but I do believe that the human race is not taking good care of this planet.

Wayne

[Ron61]

Wayne,

We aren't taking care of the planet for sure. And the ice is melting as is easily seen in Glacier National Park. Also look at Iceland and the Polar ice caps as more huge pieces crumble into the ocean. But I think it is more of a regular cycle than anything that mankind has caused. And as we pave over more and more of the land for the sake of money, there is no doubt it is going to help cause some bad effects. But I believe there will be food and water wars before we have to worry abut the land wars because of Global Warming. The population is increasing all the time and the amount of land for producing food is shrinking as they use it for malls and such. And also the water situation around here is going to be very bad next Summer if we don't get more than the occasional day or so of light rain this Winter.

Ron

[Wayne Maybury]

Ron

There are already water disputes in the south west US as more and more people place ever-increasing demands on a limited amount of fresh water. A knowledgeable person told me that it is going to get very ugly in northen Africa when the Nile is dammed and Egypt no longer has all the water it has enjoyed for centuries.

Sorry, didn't mean to hi-jack the thread.

Wayne

[tcrist]

Go rent the movie "The Day After Tomorrow". It assplaines how global warming will cause the next ice age.

[Excaliber]

Gunner, finally a decent explanation for the nightly weather forecast.

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"Many researchers are convinced that low solar activity, acting in concert with increased volcanism and possible changes in ocean current patterns, played a role in that 17th century cooling."


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