Gun Control

[JoeT]

Originally Posted by Tenrocca

There are hundreds of articles and hard statistics debunking the self-defense myth:

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More irrefutable evidence (to ignore):



Who would have thought...more guns = more death by guns.
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Tenrocca,

It's interesting that you are ONLY concerned with FIREARM deaths. Myself, I'm concerned with all homicides. A little talked about fact, IN AUSTRALIA, where it's an (anti)gun utopia after the 2007 ban, homicides briefly increased and then LEVELED OFF to pre ban figures. People are still being killed, just not by gun. So I would think that translates to the "gun ban" had no effect on homicides. So you may be correct that "more gun = more gun crime", but the reality is that less guns actually have ZERO effect on actual homicides (which I think is what we are all really trying to reduce). Then take into account that the Homicide death in the US has actually decreased in the very same time period, while gun laws have actually loosened.

Then factor in that "deaths by firearms" include suicide and accidental deaths. Statistically 60% of all gun deaths in the US are suicides. The suicide rate in Australia is reported to be 11/100,000 verses the USA of 12.6/100,000. So unless you were one of the 1.6 per 100,000 I would think this is number is "negligible" due to other outlying factors (much like Japan having a significant higher rate than the US and Australia.


Oh, and for the record....using Mother Jones as a form of "authority" of anything is laughable.


On a side thought, don't think of yesterday as a Mass shooting, think of it as a terrorist attack, because that's what it was. The gun(s) were just the instrument used. Those people would be just as dead today if they uses a pressure cooker bomb (as they did in Boston) of detonated the IED's and pipebombs that they had at their home.

dead is dead and murdered is murdered. Knife, bat, bomb, car, bathtub, gun, or poisoning shouldn't matter.

Man has killed man since Kane killed Abel, new laws aren't going to change that...not today, and unfortunately not tomorrow.