Replica or a modern reproduction?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

I can handle the "apples to oranges" equation. But you lose me on the cars to guns comparison. And I wouldn't call a Shay Model A a replica because too many things have been changed from the original. To me, it would more closely fit the definition of a "replicar."

well, you lost me on the "replicar" to "replica" comparison, as I thought a replicar meant a replica pertaining to an automobile, but hey, I was never good in English, as somebody above pointed it out again to me, dammit.

After thinking about my gun analogy, I think it's a perfect analogy. I take it you're not a gun guy. The Winchester model 1873 is the most, if not one of the most iconic rifles, firearms, ever made, because of it's "performance". Other contenders being colt 1873 model P (peacemaker), m1 garand, colt 1911, etc. Anyways, Winchester manufactured the 1873 from then until 1919. They are all valuable, with a few being extremely sought after, like a 1 of 100. Telling a gun collector you stumbled upon, purchased a Winchester 1873 1 of 100 at a garage sale would likely cause him to have a cardiac arrest. An analogy would be an average joe muscle car guy stumbling upon, purchasing the missing coupe at a warehouse foreclosure sale, and calling you to find out what he actually purchased. Actually, that's a great analogy.

Anyways, the Winchester 1873 has been a highly sought after collectible for a long time, such that many other companies started to produce "replica's" for the market for various reasons, cowboy action shooting competitors, collectors, etc. I guess because the market for these is so great, Winchester decided to begin manufacturing these again, structurally the same, from what I understand, to gain a piece of the market share. I'm thinking they're more expensive than the other replica's out there. Does this seem similar to the cobra market?

Now, "Winchester" is really the same company it was, although maybe having different names at times, when it started as the Volcanic repeating Arms company, then reorganized as the new haven arms company, then reorganized as the "Winchester repeating arms company", a name that has stuck since, likely because of the model 1873. It then has sold several times to other firms, new owners, and production has moved to other states, even another country, Japan. All along, however, the name "Winchester" has remained, despite oliver Winchester dying about 130 years ago.

So, does the history of the Winchester 1873 seem similar to the business history of the cobra? To me, it's so similar it's crazy.

It's just funny how all of us here go crazy over details that 99.9999% of the population could care less about.

When people come up to me and ask me if car is real or not, I always say its not, as we all know what they are really asking is if it is a Shelby cobra made from the 1960's. Rarely, somebody comes up to me, already knowledgeable about the various cobra's on the market including the csx4000, and I call them all cobra's, because that's what they're all supposed to be. Some are more expensive, faster, more original spec, etc, but they are all cobra's, or even Shelby cobra's, as that is what the general population calls them all anyways.

I believe the csx4000's, csx7000's, csx8000's are all "true" Shelby cobra's, as they're all from the "Shelby" company.

Whether your 1873 Winchester is an "original" made from 1873 to 1919, is a modern replica of a Winchester 1873 made by navy arms, or is a new Winchester made model 1873, they're all Winchester 1873's, but the newly manufactured 1873 from Winchester to me are still genuine Winchester 1873's.

If you, or anybody else can't understand this, not that you have to agree, I can't help you. Understanding and agreeing are not the same. I still don't understand replicar vs replica.