Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

You should take a break here. Some of us tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. But then you came in like a bull in a china shop and piled BS over the top of my boots and now the arrogance is up to my chin. Hold off until someone actually sees something you've built in person. I'd get a little warm fuzzy feeling g if two or more of your satisfied porsche customers came here with pictures of their cars. Not you, them. Until then your credibility as precisely 0.

Good luck

To whom it matters:

Do you really think I need credibility. I think there are some guys who need to wake up and go to reality. I need nothing to proof and why I should?

Arrogance? Yes, for sure to those are such imbecile doubting a successful 20 year in business owner is coming up with profitable news.
There were made mistakes...but this is business and there will be mistakes in the futures. Its up to you how to learn from.

- How I do my business is NOT you concern.
- How I advertise is NOT your concern.
- How I build a prototype is NOT your concern.
- What I am selling to who is NOT your concern.
- If you dont believe what we have done in the past means it is a lack of YOUR knowledge. I dont care.
- What I do with my employees is NOT your concern.

And the best of all for those who were attacking us and talk negative about something without any knowledge......You gave us the best free advertising ever as real customers are going to search the truth between bla bla bla and reality.

We are going toward with our actual aluminum Roadster project accepting critic and useful information from club members who like about our idea.

For misleading club members.....who cares about what you mean?

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by Alloycars

To whom it matters:

Do you really think I need credibility. I think there are some guys who need to wake up and go to reality. I need nothing to proof and why I should?

Arrogance? Yes, for sure to those are such imbecile doubting a successful 20 year in business owner is coming up with profitable news.
There were made mistakes...but this is business and there will be mistakes in the futures. Its up to you how to learn from.

- How I do my business is NOT you concern.
- How I advertise is NOT your concern.
- How I build a prototype is NOT your concern.
- What I am selling to who is NOT your concern.
- If you dont believe what we have done in the past means it is a lack of YOUR knowledge. I dont care.
- What I do with my employees is NOT your concern.

And the best of all for those who were attacking us and talk negative about something without any knowledge......You gave us the best free advertising ever as real customers are going to search the truth between bla bla bla and reality.

We are going toward with our actual aluminum Roadster project accepting critic and useful information from club members who like about our idea.

For misleading club members.....who cares about what you mean?

Good for you Ingo, in other words ...

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ[/ame]

Best of luck, if the quality is there the customers will come.
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[Buzz]

When a crowd goes rabid and thirsts for blood people have no interest in the truth and just keep chanting the same stuff over and over.

Mr. Mustang was right to call Tom on using other people's photos as representative of their product.
Tom was wrong to react by lashing out with insults instead of admitting his mistake.

Mr. Mustang was wrong when he accused Ingo of lying and being the same person as Tom when he came on to apologise and do damage control.
Ingo was right to be pissed off and react accordingly to the repeated false accusation. Who among us would take that lying down? I sure wouldn't.

If apologies are in order they need to go both ways.

As for the questions about production - it's all in the threads. They state that they used to produce a not so accurate alloy body for the South American market but stopped years ago. This is a new project using FFR chassis with only one MKIII based prototype body produced. A more accurate version is in the works.

Statements made by Tom are being attributed to Ingo and this is wrong. Tom screwed up here and disciplinary action has been taken - he was fired from the sales/marketing position but is being retained in another capacity in the shop.

People need to take a step back and chill out on the pack mentality started in response to Tom's mistakes. Ingo is obviously NOT Tom and shouldn't continue to be treated as though he is.

[mrmustang]

Buzz,

Ingo and Tom are one and the same person. For Ingo is the only one who has direct access to make changes on his web server, and do so almost instantly. "Tom" may actually be an employee here, but not the person that started here and on Ebay due to that instant access to the web server. "Tom" is the fall guy being used by Ingo as an excuse so Ingo can attempt to save face. If you look at the writing style of both, you can clearly see they are one and the same. Just like the continued denial of ever using anyone elses pictures (they are on the server still, I can point you to specific files if you like), and the Kirkham supplied, Blue Moon Motorsports built FFR MK II Chassis car they are currently stating is their own.

Other than that, have a happy new year.


Bill S.

Originally Posted by Buzz

When a crowd goes rabid and thirsts for blood people have no interest in the truth and just keep chanting the same stuff over and over.

Mr. Mustang was right to call Tom on using other people's photos as representative of their product.
Tom was wrong to react by lashing out with insults instead of admitting his mistake.

Mr. Mustang was wrong when he accused Ingo of lying and being the same person as Tom when he came on to apologise and do damage control.
Ingo was right to be pissed off and react accordingly to the repeated false accusation. Who among us would take that lying down? I sure wouldn't.

If apologies are in order they need to go both ways.

As for the questions about production - it's all in the threads. They state that they used to produce a not so accurate alloy body for the South American market but stopped years ago. This is a new project using FFR chassis with only one MKIII based prototype body produced. A more accurate version is in the works.

Statements made by Tom are being attributed to Ingo and this is wrong. Tom screwed up here and disciplinary action has been taken - he was fired from the sales/marketing position but is being retained in another capacity in the shop.

People need to take a step back and chill out on the pack mentality started in response to Tom's mistakes. Ingo is obviously NOT Tom and shouldn't continue to be treated as though he is.

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Buzz,

Ingo and Tom are one and the same person. For Ingo is the only one who has direct access to make changes on his web server, and do so almost instantly. "Tom" may actually be an employee here, but not the person that started here and on Ebay due to that instant access to the web server. "Tom" is the fall guy being used by Ingo as an excuse so Ingo can attempt to save face. If you look at the writing style of both, you can clearly see they are one and the same. Just like the continued denial of ever using anyone elses pictures (they are on the server still, I can point you to specific files if you like), and the Kirkham supplied, Blue Moon Motorsports built FFR MK II Chassis car they are currently stating is their own.

Other than that, have a happy new year.


Bill S.

What to heck is a MKII? But you are right....dont forget your medicine. And yes, you are currently on the BLUE MOON

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by Buzz

When a crowd goes rabid and thirsts for blood people have no interest in the truth and just keep chanting the same stuff over and over.

Mr. Mustang was right to call Tom on using other people's photos as representative of their product.
Tom was wrong to react by lashing out with insults instead of admitting his mistake.

Mr. Mustang was wrong when he accused Ingo of lying and being the same person as Tom when he came on to apologise and do damage control.
Ingo was right to be pissed off and react accordingly to the repeated false accusation. Who among us would take that lying down? I sure wouldn't.

If apologies are in order they need to go both ways.

As for the questions about production - it's all in the threads. They state that they used to produce a not so accurate alloy body for the South American market but stopped years ago. This is a new project using FFR chassis with only one MKIII based prototype body produced. A more accurate version is in the works.

Statements made by Tom are being attributed to Ingo and this is wrong. Tom screwed up here and disciplinary action has been taken - he was fired from the sales/marketing position but is being retained in another capacity in the shop.

People need to take a step back and chill out on the pack mentality started in response to Tom's mistakes. Ingo is obviously NOT Tom and shouldn't continue to be treated as though he is.

The day I came back and have seen this add I have sent a letter for apologize to mrmustang for the misbehavior of TOM. And Tom will be present at the next show too and he will apologize to those members he replied in a mad manner. But after I have seen that mrmustang used my apology as a weakness I really want to kick his butt as far as possible.
Never ever I have seen such a nosy girly person talking about what he absolutely doesnt understand, absolutely no knowledge...but keeping talking crap and crap and crap.
Anyway, I came over it. A shame someone like this sits in a Cobra.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Alloycars

The day I came back and have seen this add I have sent a letter for apologize to mrmustang for the misbehavior of TOM. And Tom will be present at the next show too and he will apologize to those members he replied in a mad manner. But after I have seen that mrmustang used my apology as a weakness I really want to kick his butt as far as possible.
Never ever I have seen such a nosy girly person talking about what he absolutely doesnt understand, absolutely no knowledge...but keeping talking crap and crap and crap.
Anyway, I came over it. A shame someone like this sits in a Cobra.

You sent a letter of apology ?

Your response to me is posted in this thread for all to see, along with my response, and your response after that.

As for credibility, your lack of a response tom the very simple questions I asked a day ago in post #220 of this thread would have gone a long way to repairing yours. Your lack of a response to them spoke loudly to many members here.


Bill S.

[CHANMADD]

Are you aware that this forum has a lot of Cobra owners ....and future potential buyers that read this stuff.
Hey ...these ARE the people you need to care about........

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by CHANMADD

Are you aware that this forum has a lot of Cobra owners ....and future potential buyers that read this stuff.
Hey ...these ARE the people you need to care about........

NOP...if they are interested to have something potential useful they have to taken care that we are doing well. All others are not our customers...its simple like that.

[McD00]

Ingo, U R alot nicer that TOM... he wouldve called his potential customers RETARDS where U are a lot more respectful by calling them IMBECILES. I can see the difference. Good thing U fired yourself.

[Buzz]

If Buzz is wrong about this then Buzz will apologise and admit Mr Mustang was right about them being one and the same.

Happy New year to you too.

[Bernica]

Am I reading the new thread on CC right? Called "Alloycars looking for opinions"..

"Hello all, my name is Ozzie and I own Alloycars...."

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Am I reading the new thread on CC right? Called "Alloycars looking for opinions"..

"Hello all, my name is Ozzie and I own Alloycars...."

4 year old thread...Ozzie was my Co-Partner

Are you satisfied now?

[Alloycars]

To whom it matters:

Do you really think I need credibility. I think there are some guys who need to wake up and go to reality. I need nothing to proof and why I should?

Arrogance? Yes, for sure to those are such imbecile doubting a successful 20 year in business owner is coming up with profitable news.
There were made mistakes...but this is business and there will be mistakes in the futures. Its up to you how to learn from.

- How I do my business is NOT you concern.
- How I advertise is NOT your concern.
- How I build a prototype is NOT your concern.
- What I am selling to who is NOT your concern.
- If you dont believe what we have done in the past means it is a lack of YOUR knowledge. I dont care.
- What I do with my employees is NOT your concern.

And the best of all for those who were attacking us and talk negative about something without any knowledge......You gave us the best free advertising ever as real customers are going to search the truth between bla bla bla and reality.

We are going toward with our actual aluminum Roadster project accepting critic and useful information from club members who like about our idea.

For misleading club members.....who cares about what you mean?

[Alloycars]

Yes, but this is the whole story about. I dont need to promise nothing as we are already established. There is and will be a next project, but this is not what we are talking about here. I am talking about fake misleading members hiding behind avatars. No face, no guts, no glory....

I see people here didnt get it yet so lets make it very clear for ones:

I give a crap about sales. I do what I love as I can afford it. I dont need money so stop crying about customers.
I never stop doing projects and we do extreme replicas for customers who can afford to pay for and want absolute exclusivity.

If you want one....ask....honestly...and maybe we do it for you. Thats the way it works.
If I have a new project like the FFR aluminum body you can take advantage from it....for me its a project only. I will sell them and I sell them only if I want too...not if YOU want to have one.
I am proud to say that I have the most satisfied customers today and our books are full. I accept critics, from people who know what they are talking about. But this is the only thing I accept and yes, I have a very rude character.
Is that clear enough?

[RodKnock]

I love this thread, but what a train wreck.

Having said that, I don't see any advantage to buying an alloy Cobra from this company in Florida than buying one from that fine wonderful company in Utah.

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I love this thread, but what a train wreck.

Having said that, I don't see any advantage to buying an alloy Cobra from this company in Florida than buying one from that fine wonderful company in Utah.

Agree, so dont. I guess that you dont have a lack of money for not seeing the advantage. So why you are still driving a fiberglass car?
A new fake customer discovered?...objective member?...this is so kind

MEAN OLD INGO

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Alloycars

Agree, so dont. I guess that you dont have a lack of money for not seeing the advantage. So why you are still driving a fiberglass car?
A new fake customer discovered?...objective member?...this is so kind

MEAN OLD INGO

I don't own a "fiberglass car," but thank you for displaying your lack of the obvious. If you were able to figure out the obvious, then you would notice that my Cobra is a Kirkham Cobra. And Kirkham Cobras are aluminum.

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by RodKnock;13****6

I don't own a "fiberglass car," but thank you for displaying your lack of the obvious. If you were able to figure out the obvious, then you would notice that my Cobra is a Kirkham Cobra. And Kirkham Cobras are aluminum.

Kirkham are the finest Cobras so far for me. A really nice craftsmanship what you can be proud about.

[Alloycars]

a lot of jerk offs here. Never had such fun in front of my pc.