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Old 12-21-2014, 08:28 PM
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10,000 posts/replies from you mrmustang. This is a incredible time at front of your PC.
Around 830 hours sitting and watching, replying, telling bullsh...830 hours

I have to tell...you are the man.
Why thank you. You're so kind and such the mathematician too!

You may want to spend some time in front of your computer in order to improve your website and load pictures of the 150 alloy Cobras that you've built. And delete the photos of the Cobras from other manufacturers that you didn't build.
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:30 PM
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I play all day then in the evening I sit in front of the computer browsing for a little bit, and before you know it you have that many posts. I am not taking sides here but just pointing out that posts can add up quickly over the years.
MrMustang has been on here almost 15 years, that's 666 posts a year which is like 1.9 posts a day.
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:46 PM
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I think everybody over-acted a little bit and I agree. Those hours can come up quickly.
I sent a post with a picture with one of my guys working on one of our bodies. A lot of bodies at the background but I have to wait for approval for the pictures. We have other big stock photos which we will post in a separate add..

Anyway, I am inviting mrmustang to come here to our facility, paying the trip, return to home and review. This is more than fair I think.

We are taking highly attention to customer advises so all improvements are coming only from customer suggestions. This is the only way getting a better product, but not talking first negative.

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Old 12-21-2014, 08:47 PM
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10,000 posts/replies from you mrmustang. This is a incredible time at front of your PC.
Around 830 hours sitting and watching, replying, telling bullsh...830 hours

I have to tell...you are the man.
And another one! Just sayin'...
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:54 PM
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:28 PM
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I too find it amazing that someone has built 150 alloy cobras and not a single one of the owners has piped in here. Maybe he sold them to the little green moon guys from the dick Tracy comic that live on the dark side of the moon and are doing the road testing on the new Ford gt

Or as the people from Missouri say: show me
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I think everybody over-acted a little bit and I agree. Those hours can come up quickly.
I sent a post with a picture with one of my guys working on one of our bodies. A lot of bodies at the background but I have to wait for approval for the pictures. We have other big stock photos which we will post in a separate add..

Anyway, I am inviting mrmustang to come here to our facility, paying the trip, return to home and review. This is more than fair I think.

We are taking highly attention to customer advises so all improvements are coming only from customer suggestions. This is the only way getting a better product, but not talking first negative.

A happy Christmas

Tom
If mrmustang doesn't want to come over can you fly me from New Zealand instead? I'd love an aluminium body for my replica!
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:46 AM
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I think everybody over-acted a little bit and I agree. Those hours can come up quickly.
I sent a post with a picture with one of my guys working on one of our bodies. A lot of bodies at the background but I have to wait for approval for the pictures. We have other big stock photos which we will post in a separate add..

Anyway, I am inviting mrmustang to come here to our facility, paying the trip, return to home and review. This is more than fair I think.

We are taking highly attention to customer advises so all improvements are coming only from customer suggestions. This is the only way getting a better product, but not talking first negative.

A happy Christmas

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Passion is one thing, stupidity is another, same goes for trust. At this point in time, I'll decline your invitation as I'd be afraid I might become gaiter food in the everglades should I announce myself in your shop, and no, I'm not kidding.

If and when I do decide to review your shop, it will be without notice so you do not have time to "tidy up" and put on a nice display.


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Old 12-22-2014, 05:12 AM
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I'm confused. Is there actually a photo of a substantially "completed" Alloycars Cobra somewhere in all of this thread?
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An alloy car built every single month for 12 years.....................
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:23 AM
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Hi Patrickt,

I agree, since there are some super detectives here who are spending a holly Sunday for looking on inverted photos. (No girlfriends??? Everybody is doing photoshop to their advertising. We are taking off ugly backgrounds and so on and what matters is the final product. This will not change in the future. We have 20 years of untouchable reputation in our business so we are simply ignoring such irrelevant threats, mostly made by other fiberglass or aluminum kitcar builder....and for those guys it does matter, believe me.
Dont forget that we built already 150 aluminum Cobras in the past even with the not correct chassis. Our Spyders are the most identical copies money can buy. The MK5 will have the same dedication. I own the last polished version of our last production line in 2007.
Only speculation, thoughts and wasting time.
So lets go with facts:

- 100% made in USA. So who is not a patriot please buy from foreign countries and defend them.
- Aluminum body.
- Advanced chassis construction.
- Very affordable prices.
- Price starts under 50k and under 70k for a Roller and under 90K complete.
- We are generating US employees, third party contractors and paying taxes.
- No hidden additional options.
- Security features.
- We are using Wilwood, leather, aluminum and CNC machined parts.
- FAST delivery time....not 10-12 month.
- You can see your car is being build LIVE over the web.
- And the best is: You can visit us anytime as we are HERE in Florida.


OUR COMPETITION IS VERY AFRAID ABOUT OUR MK5. THE PROOF IS HERE IN THIS FORUM.
I am particularly interested in your quote, "We have 20 years of untouchable reputation in our business so we are simply ignoring such irrelevant threats, mostly made by other fiberglass or aluminum kitcar builder....and for those guys it does matter, believe me."

I hadn't heard of you or your company before I posted a couple of days ago on this thread. I have not contacted you. As far as I know, this is my first communication with you...ever. If there are indeed threats from an "aluminum kitcar builder" I am not sure who it is. There aren't very many aluminum guys out there.

That said, that picture you are using is of a Kirkham--photoshopped or not. I don't think you want to give the impression you are making Kirkhams. You are not.

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Old 12-22-2014, 07:56 AM
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Ingo Poth Master coachbuilder & President of Alloycars Inc.


Alloycars Incorporated, Fort Lauderdale, FL-USA 33311, 756 NW 27th Ave.
IN HOUSE SERVICE:
- Sheet metal fabrication and re-body
- Reverse engineering
- 3D Scanning
- Aluminum casting
- Chassis construction
- CNC Machining
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- Mold fabrication
- Rubber/Polyurethane casting
- Consulting
- Restorations.
- 'Solidworks' computerized engineering / develoment
- 'Solidcam' Structual Stress Simulation
- Any kind of welding
- Re-construction of lost car parts
- Upholstery
- CNC Plasma cutting
- General milling
- Suspension engineering
- Carbon Fiber projects

A lost art: Old fashion craftsmanship

Since 1996 Alloycars coachbuilders of Fort Lauderdale, Florida are known for building high-end recreations of historic race cars. The team has combined the master crafsmanship of German handmade all-alloy body construction and high-tech CAD re-engineering of historic race icons.

The results are stunning re-constructions of historic automobiles like the Porsche 550 Spyder and the Mercedes 300SLR Silver Arrow. Based on original factory drawings and plans, including all original works handbooks and 3-D scans of original cars, Alloycars offers the unique opportunity to own a piece of automotive history.

Privately owned and operated, founded in 1996 by Ingo Poth, the AlloyCars team of eight
automotive master craftsmen continue the re-creation of priceless works of automotive
history. Working from our plant situated in Ft Lauderdale, Florida, AlloyCars are purveyors of
precision built opulence dedicated to all men (and women) who embrace speed and luxury.

Melding German automotive mastery with impeccable American craftsmanship; each
AlloyCar product is a commissioned vehicle. Perspective owners claim the AlloyCars
automobile are indistinguishable from the original car. The company carries on a historical
tradition reminiscent of European craftsmanship.

AlloyCars also offers the unique opportunity to re-create cars and parts of automotive
history. If you have a historic vehicle with priceless parts missing, we are the only
company who accept the challenge to re-create anything independent how much is left
from the original car. Sometimes we have a photo documentation only to work with.

Boasting unparalleled workmanship AlloyCars vehicles are crafted from hand forged, high
performance, alloy aluminum. Design is based on original factory drawings and plans,
handbooks and blueprints decoded and 3-D scans resulting in stunning reconstructions of
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:30 AM
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So if Ingo owns it who is Ozzie in this topic:

Alloycars looking for opinions

Ingo doesn't get a very good rating in the above topic, and it may represent the only person here who has first hand experience.

Has anyone seen any ratings on their other work?
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Serial numbers on the 150 Cobra's?
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:34 AM
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I am happy to announce that in the event Mr. Mustang is unavailable I would gladly take the gratis trip to evaluate your facility to examine your procedures/results and report on same! I have no particular expertise but am retired with lots of free time and never get to go anyplace.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:09 AM
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Let's see:

1) Florida based business
2) Seems to sell abroad
3) Nobody here familiar with the man/company (and goes by another name)
3) 150 undocumented Cobras

I'd be leary.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:15 AM
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Let's see:

1) Florida based business
2) Seems to sell abroad
3) Nobody here familiar with the man/company (and goes by another name)
3) 150 undocumented Cobras

I'd be leary.
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:15 AM
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we are not allowed by Shelby himself to copy anything as there is a "Dress" patent, even we are working on a prototype under contract.
Carrol died in 2012 - I highly doubt Shelby American Inc. is interested in more sub contractors

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Chassis: We are using in fact a FFR chassis which has being modified for some security features and mainly to support our aluminum body.
You are not only using the FF5 chassis (), you copied their body too. Clearly to see on the high arches and perky butt --- as you stated cameras don't lie.

I'm sure you meant/mean safety features, it appears to me English is not your first language (here the same).


Let me sum it up for you:

You posted pictures on ebay which where clearly not your product.
You rumble in this forum here like a bulldozer and attack members.
You try to be funny and smart - nah.
You did not make any friends here.
You underestimate the traffic on this site, for every logged member there are 300 readers.
You have no authority in Alloycars - otherwise you don't need permission to post pictures - thus you handle is misleading.


.......now, chance to rethink and try it again.
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I am particularly interested in your quote, "We have 20 years of untouchable reputation in our business so we are simply ignoring such irrelevant threats, mostly made by other fiberglass or aluminum kitcar builder....and for those guys it does matter, believe me."

I hadn't heard of you or your company before I posted a couple of days ago on this thread. I have not contacted you. As far as I know, this is my first communication with you...ever. If there are indeed threats from an "aluminum kitcar builder" I am not sure who it is. There aren't very many aluminum guys out there.

That said, that picture you are using is of a Kirkham--photoshopped or not. I don't think you want to give the impression you are making Kirkhams. You are not.

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David,

I think the confusion here may be coming from this post from mrmustang Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay

Perhaps we should point out that mrmustang does not work for your company. ��

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