CSX vs. Superformance Body Mold

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Those comparo pics are pretty awful.
A little bit of elevation really has an effect.
If the camera was placed the same distance at the same height, and preferable the same color and light, we'd be on to something.
The ERA looks more accurate than the Kirkham, and we know that's not the case.

Then you need to find a set of comparison photos on the Kirkham site.

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Those comparo pics are pretty awful.
A little bit of elevation really has an effect.
If the camera was placed the same distance at the same height, and preferable the same color and light, we'd be on to something.
The ERA looks more accurate than the Kirkham, and we know that's not the case.

What Kirkham? there is no kirkham is those photos. If you claim my photos (yes I took them my self) are awful, then why dont you post some of yours? SMH

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

What Kirkham? there is no kirkham is those photos. If you claim my photos (yes I took them my self) are awful, then why dont you post some of yours? SMH

Now Mike, you know Rodney is barely a half step over a moron, but I think he might be referring to my post in which I included this link to the comparison photos. Compare car profiles

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Now Mike, you know Rodney is barely a half step over a moron, but I think he might be referring to my post in which I included this link to the comparison photos. Compare car profiles

Make that a quarter step.

If I send ERA a better pic of a KMP, will ERA hand crank their site and change it?

[peterpjb]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Now Mike, you know Rodney is barely a half step over a moron, but I think he might be referring to my post in which I included this link to the comparison photos. Compare car profiles

I am sorry to say that, but to be able to compare minor body details and differences from pictures, the pictures should be made with exactly the same focus width, length and heights and, of course, from the same position, otherwise you can reason ...nothing...

[rodneym]

I was referring to the pics on the ERA site, showing profiles with different distances and heights. As a comparison, it's pretty bad.

Sorry for the confusion, ERA626. No need to get riled up.

[patrickt]

See? Now, can we all go back to sleep?

[rodneym]

Here's one...

[patrickt]

Wait a minute... isn't that RodKnock's car? Absolutely not.

[rodneym]

Who?

Where IS that guy?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Who?

Where IS that guy?

I think he had put his life savings in a Coronavirus hedge fund....

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Here's one...

This is a CSX 6000 series car as you can see its almost identical to the KMS and the original. The ass end of the ERA seems to be a bit longer.

[RUFdriver]

KMS and CSX ( continuation Cobras) look the closest to the original Cobra, the others not so much. But it’s all good, they’re all replicas at the end of the day, have fun and drive ‘em like you stole ‘em!��

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by RUFdriver

KMS and CSX ( continuation Cobras) look the closest to the original Cobra, the others not so much. But it’s all good, they’re all replicas at the end of the day, have fun and drive ‘em like you stole ‘em!��

Dont even start with "they,re all replicas" SMH, different topic all together. How in the hell can a Shelby be a replica of a Shelby? Different year? yes... replica no.
is a 2019 Ford GT a replica of a 1965 Ford GT? no... different year but its still a Ford GT.

[rodneym]

Uh......ooooooooooohhhhhh.....

Looks like cc is back on track!
Welcome back everyone!!!!!

[RUFdriver]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

Dont even start with "they,re all replicas" SMH, different topic all together. How in the hell can a Shelby be a replica of a Shelby? Different year? yes... replica no.
is a 2019 Ford GT a replica of a 1965 Ford GT? no... different year but its still a Ford GT.

Fair enough but if it wasn’t built by SA in the 60s what would you call it? Don’t call it a come back! 😀

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by RUFdriver

Fair enough but if it wasn’t built by SA in the 60s what would you call it? Don’t call it a come back! 😀

OK do we really need to dive into this? who actually Built the cars in the 60's? was it AC bristol? then SA installed the drive train? Correct me if Im wrong, Same thing as now, Hi-tech builds the cars same scenario different year.
I think we need to let this go as it will start a 50 page debate on stuff we dont agree on... I completely understand the different level of replicas out there, yes some are nicer than others. But there is a valid point that some people pay a premium to get that CSX vin number, and if you look at the market you can see that the CSX cars are at or near the top of the market in terms of resale and value.

[snakeeyes]

It’s a fallacy to say that one replica looks closer to an original than another, at least in the case of ERA vs. Kit “X”. As stated earlier in this thread, ERA’s body was taken directly from Peter Portante’s original car. Kind of hard to say it’s not “accurate”, or is “less accurate”, than another manufacturer’s kit.

It comes down to personal preference of one shape vs. another. To my eye ERA’s body has always looked the best, and I started ogling Cobra kits back when the choices were basically between Butler, Contemporary, and ERA. Hell, I’ve seen ERAs parked next to original cars and preferred the ERA. Again, that’s simply down to my personal preference.

Not to muddy things further here, but weren’t the bodies for either the KMP or the CSX cars taken from the “original” (i.e., Tom D’Antonio) Hi-Tech cars? Which, themselves, were taken from (I seem to recall) two different CSX cars? If so, then whichever of those came from the Hi-Tech cars were, themselves, a second-generation body.

[LMH]

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

It’s a fallacy to say that one replica looks closer to an original than another, at least in the case of ERA vs. Kit “X”. As stated earlier in this thread, ERA’s body was taken directly from Peter Portante’s original car. Kind of hard to say it’s not “accurate”, or is “less accurate”, than another manufacturer’s kit.

It comes down to personal preference of one shape vs. another. To my eye ERA’s body has always looked the best, and I started ogling Cobra kits back when the choices were basically between Butler, Contemporary, and ERA. Hell, I’ve seen ERAs parked next to original cars and preferred the ERA. Again, that’s simply down to my personal preference.

Not to muddy things further here, but weren’t the bodies for either the KMP or the CSX cars taken from the “original” (i.e., Tom D’Antonio) Hi-Tech cars? Which, themselves, were taken from (I seem to recall) two different CSX cars? If so, then whichever of those came from the Hi-Tech cars were, themselves, a second-generation body.

Kirkham and current CSX cars have no relationship with the original Hi Tech. Hi Techs 427 body was molded off CSX3190. Ive seen the plug used to make subsequent molds. I don't remember what car(s) Kirkham and therefore Shelby, used but I seem to remember it was a couple different ones that were scanned, not molded.

Larry

[snakeeyes]

Originally Posted by LMH

Kirkham and current CSX cars have no relationship with the original Hi Tech. Hi Techs 427 body was molded off CSX3190. Ive seen the plug used to make subsequent molds. I don't remember what car(s) Kirkham and therefore Shelby, used but I seem to remember it was a couple different ones that were scanned, not molded.

Larry

Thanks, Larry. I stand corrected. I know I read somewhere (I think in a post on this site) about the Hi-Tech body serving as the starting point, but I’m pretty sure it’s not the first time the good old internet has been wrong.

As an aside, I love that green ERA in gtk’s post. I’ve always been a sucker for FIA wheels on a 427.