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[madmaxx]

Excellent write-up Rismoes, it is nice to see the sharks out, even after all your disclaimers in your initail write-up there were still individuals feeling better about their situation by insulting yours. It is obvious you did the write-up to enlighten and help others since you do not own one anymore. I agree with everything you said, I know if I were not a mechanic my experience would have been different.

Best of luck in the vet world, I know mile for mile the vet will hold it value better and even better you will have piece of mind.

I purchased a used miata on a whim from a buddy just after I sold my Cobra for $3500. After driving the Miata every day with the ac on and having a blast after 6K miles I questioned my sanity for buying a Cobra.

Bottom line is different strokes for different folks.

[fsstnotch]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Excellent write-up Rismoes, it is nice to see the sharks out, even after all your disclaimers in your initail write-up there were still individuals feeling better about their situation by insulting yours. It is obvious you did the write-up to enlighten and help others since you do not own one anymore. I agree with everything you said, I know if I were not a mechanic my experience would have been different.

Best of luck in the vet world, I know mile for mile the vet will hold it value better and even better you will have piece of mind.

I agree... and disagree. I would bet money that the Kirkham would have less depreciation over the next year or 2 than the vette will. But that's ok.

I think basically, the reason most people here who have commented brashly to the thread are the facts... he knew it was a race car, he knew it would be loud and obnoxious, that it had no A/C, no power steering, and wasn't meant to have a top. Yet those are his exact reasons for hating it!

Bottom line, I've heard it over and over again since I've joined CC... If you don't like, loud, obnoxious, smelly, POS... Then you don't want a cobra! For the most part, those "gear heads" will always love the car for the exact reasons that others hate 'em!

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!"

IMO, he'll enjoy his Vette better. He was meant for the vette. At least he knows now that a cobra is not for him although I think if he had initially posted what HE wanted. Most of the guys on this board would have told him to buy a vette.

[Power Surge]

I think Rob made some poor decisions in his journey to own his dream car. But I don't hold it against him, it's not like he made those decisions knowing the poor outcomes. People make mistakes. Some are worse than others.

I owned a FFR and a KMP on my journey to my CSX. Lost some time and money in the process. But I do not regret either choice. By having both those cars, I learned a ton about them, good and bad. Now I can use that knowledge to help others. I also met a lot of great people from both camps. I highly value that as well. I like to think I gained more than I lost along the way.

As for people getting Cobras and realizing it's not for them, that is very true. I have a local guy here who has dreamed of a Cobra since he was little. Seeing mine every day, just made him more fired up to get one. So as he was frantically looking for a car, I offered to take him for a ride in mine, so he could get an idea of what they are like. I took him for a ride, and when we got back he thanked me. The next day he told me he was going to buy a Corvette instead.

[hi-tech cobra]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Excellent write-up Rismoes, it is nice to see the sharks out, even after all your disclaimers in your initail write-up there were still individuals feeling better about their situation by insulting yours. It is obvious you did the write-up to enlighten and help others since you do not own one anymore. I agree with everything you said, I know if I were not a mechanic my experience would have been different.

Best of luck in the vet world, I know mile for mile the vet will hold it value better and even better you will have piece of mind.

I purchased a used miata on a whim from a buddy just after I sold my Cobra for $3500. After driving the Miata every day with the ac on and having a blast after 6K miles I questioned my sanity for buying a Cobra.

Bottom line is different strokes for different folks.

Dear shark bait,
How well would this post would fly if it were reversed. A post on a vette forum whining about not buying a cobra. It would lead to many flaming keyboards. Take your Miata and shove it up your a$$.

[RACER X #99]

In my opinion there are two types this car (Cobra) appeals to. Gear heads and Car guys.
Gear heads build their own cars and do all the maintenance work.
Gear heads go to track events and some even race or open track their Cobras.
Gear heads know that Cobras leak oil, smell, ride lousy. They also know that Cobras are not as fast as Corvettes, Porsches, Vipers etc. ON THE RACETRACK.

Car guys buy cars that somebody else built or they contract to others to assemble their car.
Car guys go to car shows, hang out on cruise nights, talk about driving fast.
Car guys are quick to give advise to others and some even profess to be Cobra experts.
Car guys still believe that Cobras are the fastest cars ever built.


Most Gear heads are happy with the Cobras they own.

Most Car guys don't keep their Cobras very long.

Most of the posters on Club Cobra are Car guys.

[mj_duell]

Originally Posted by RACER X #99

In my opinion there are two types this car (Cobra) appeals to. Gear heads and Car guys.
Gear heads build their own cars and do all the maintenance work.
Gear heads go to track events and some even race or open track their Cobras.
Gear heads know that Cobras leak oil, smell, ride lousy. They also know that Cobras are not as fast as Corvettes, Porsches, Vipers etc. ON THE RACETRACK.

Car guys buy cars that somebody else built or they contract to others to assemble their car.
Car guys go to car shows, hang out on cruise nights, talk about driving fast.
Car guys are quick to give advise to others and some even profess to be Cobra experts.
Car guys still believe that Cobras are the fastest cars ever built.


Most Gear heads are happy with the Cobras they own.

Most Car guys don't keep their Cobras very long.

Most of the posters on Club Cobra are Car guys.

Cranky! How true.

[Sharroll Celby]

Originally Posted by RACER X #99

In my opinion there are two types this car (Cobra) appeals to. Gear heads and Car guys.
Gear heads build their own cars and do all the maintenance work.
Gear heads go to track events and some even race or open track their Cobras.
Gear heads know that Cobras leak oil, smell, ride lousy. They also know that Cobras are not as fast as Corvettes, Porsches, Vipers etc. ON THE RACETRACK.

Car guys buy cars that somebody else built or they contract to others to assemble their car.
Car guys go to car shows, hang out on cruise nights, talk about driving fast.
Car guys are quick to give advise to others and some even profess to be Cobra experts.
Car guys still believe that Cobras are the fastest cars ever built.


Most Gear heads are happy with the Cobras they own.

Most Car guys don't keep their Cobras very long.

Most of the posters on Club Cobra are Car guys.

I would like to volunteer a "third" type of person that a Cobra appeals to:

The COBRA GUY! {or GAL...right, Kristen? }

The COBRA GUY acquires their Cobra in the manner that suits THEM best...Some COBRA GUYS build, other COBRA GUYS buy.
The COBRA GUY does easy stuff like shock replacement, equipment checks, and washing and waxing their Cobra; some COBRA GUYS are able to do more.
The COBRA GUY might occasionally drive their Cobra to a track for some LIGHT racing action; Some COBRA GUYS actually have a trailer and tow vehicle, but many do not have those vehicles.
The COBRA GUY knows that Cobras smell, ride lousy, are cramped, and are mercilessly HOT in the summertime!
The COBRA GUY goes to car shows and cruise nights, and they allow people to admire their Cobras, knowing full well that the Cobra is many, MANY people's dream machine!
Some COBRA GUYS talk about wild stories in their Cobras, but many COBRA GUYS just nod their heads accordingly and say "Thank You" when people compliment their Cobras.

But most of all, COBRA GUYS actually DRIVE their Cobras, as often and as far as their weather and driving season lets them. They dont care whether another Cobra has a big block or a small block, or whether another Cobra has a perky butt or a longer wheelbase, or a (not-to) different interior, or even a non-Ford powerplant. They dont care that there are nicks in the paint from driving their Cobras 6 to 8 thousand miles a year OR MORE! COBRA GUYS just want to drive their Cobras, and drive them they do!

[RedBarchetta]

Maybe this could be a source of better therapy for guys like Rob...

www.shrinksforless.com

[trs900]

"Quote" I love the way Miatas shake and quiver when I pass them on the highway....

We are tired of you bullies passing us on the highway with those noisey smelly exhaust pipes spewing gas and fumes on us, we are just going to stay home from now on and watch the Car's video..

[imagine2frolic]

So much for this being the world's largest non biased Cobra site. It sounds like the man has raped all the women in your family. Just a month ago some of the same sharks were very kind to him when he mentioned he was not the type to own a Cobra.

Talk about schoolyard behaviour. EVERYBODY just jump in, and kick the man while he is on the ground. SO WHAT if he doesn't like driving the beast. It's his money, his wife, his kid, and his life, and he has the right to HIS OPINION! Everybody here has got an opinion on something, and just because because his doesn't agree with most here. That doesn't make him less of a man. Your mothers would probably wash your mouths with soap.

How long ago were most of you patting him on the back? Giving him high fives for his decisions to have the car built? Now you sound like a lynch mob. May you be forgiven if ever you made an expensive mistake in your life. I give the man a high five for stepping forward, and admitting the car was not for him. Good luck rsimoes, and enjoy your life. It is after all your life, and you don't have to live for anyone else.

[SKINNEDR]

imagine2frolic,
you are totally right, but you have to admit that is the beauty of living in America. Everyone has an opinion, that include us the ones that beats him up.

But it's an opinion that all af us has. I'm sure that he does not really care what we have to say. He already made a decision and that's a done deal.
It's all about boys being boys..
If you are man enough to publish something so personal to the world you have to live with the consequences.
His opinion is his, and our is ours.
What a Country.....
Dex...........

[trs900]

I think a lot of people buy into the ideal more than the car and whats it is all about.. to me it's a toy simple as that, not intended for a dailey driver. A similar but much more popular scenario would be the Harley group, not only do they have to buy the bike but then all the black leather chaps, hats, jackets you name it to complete the costume then once a month go hang out at the local pub and talk bad... then after a year its all up for sale.

[trs900]

You never know some day he might have another Cobra sitting in his garage and hopefully it won't have to many problems and he will be able to enjoy it. I have found that over the years priorities change from time to time. I once knew a guy in his 30's who had been married 5 times--told me he wouldn't mind having his 1st. wife back

[fsstnotch]

Lets use the harley as another example.... Compare cobra with harley and you have the same thing. A loud, obnoxious piece of machinery that gets attention, leaks oil, and so on. Now lets pretend he was complaining about buying a harley instead of say... a goldwing! The goldwing could be compared to the vette since it is much more refined, quiet, etc etc. The same arguement would be taking place!

YOu knew damn well what you were getting into! I'm only sorry that it took you so much time and money to realize you are not the "crude" kind of guy but more of the teddy bear lover who likes his things soft and comfortable. This thread is perfect! I hope any potential buyer/builder reads it in it's entirety. If at the end, they still feel that they want to join the brotherhood... then they will have made the right choice for THEM and not for anybody else!

My daughter loves the crudeness! I can't wait to take her out for a ride! When I ask her if she'd like to ride in Daddy's car (88 notch) or mommy's car (01 GT) she always points to mine because it's loud and go cart like! that happens when you run long tubes and pro chamber without mufflers!

[blykins]

Like we all didn't see this one coming...I feel sorry for the Kirkham boys and Keith Craft for having to put up with this guy.

[Jerry Clayton]

Its interesting to me to read the replies and look at the join dates of the repliers---the more recent joiners haven't read his posts as this ordeal came about---do a search and get a feel for his attitude about the Cobra world and you will see how so many responded that you could see this coming---

I , for one, believe that a Corvette is beyond what he should be in and even a Miata is questionable----

I think moe a Lexas ( Toyotas are just tooooo Nascar ie ) would fit his life style---back seat for the kids, trunk big enough for golf clubs,etc( probably leave the tennis racket and gulf clubs at the CLUB )

I hope that Kirkham and Kieth Craft can get a breath of fresh air---

[Jerry Clayton]

Does this thread set or have record setting potential for the number of replies in shortest time period?

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton

Does this thread ...have record setting potential for the number of replies..?

No...because I'm going to close it if there is one more

Take your Miata and shove it up your a$$...

Read my earlier post....if this doesn't stay in shape, it's history.

[496fe]

Originally Posted by computerworks

No...because I'm going to close it if there is one more


Read my earlier post....if this doesn't stay in shape, it's history.

Great idea Brent. If he can trash KC, Kirkham and others, and you don't want us to give our opinions on a discussion forum, then the best place for this thread is in the trash. We appreciate all you do for this forum and it's your forum. You need to do what you think is best.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by 496fe

Great idea Brent. If he can trash KC, Kirkham and others, and you don't want us to give our opinions on a discussion forum, then the best place for this thread is in the trash. We appreciate all you do for this forum and it's your forum. You need to do what you think is best.

uhhhh? Brent's not in right now...would you like to leave a message?

You have missed the point.

Opinions are welcome. ...all of them.

What is not ...is personal attacks and suggestions of shoving your car up your a$$. That's all I meant.

Oh.... and we always do what we think is best, thanks.