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Old 09-07-2007, 06:55 PM
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You know what........some of you guys are really being d!ick-heads about this thread.......why don't you go beat your wife......you may feel better in the morning.
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:08 PM
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You know what........some of you guys are really being d!ick-heads about this thread.......why don't you go beat your wife......you may feel better in the morning.
Brian, in the surrealistic world of internet Cobra-dom, it is important not to lose your sense of humor. It is the essence of the silly argument that has made this so entertaining to some of us. That, and the DH's that piled on to Rsimoes.
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I have given more advise on how to resolve issues on this forum they [sic] (than) you could ever hope too.

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Already dealt with the matter. Thanks for the stretching exercise ideas! Rob is my hero!
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Already dealt with the matter. Thanks for the stretching exercise ideas! Rob is my hero!
I was quoting madmaxx, but I'm glad you were "receptive."
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When you guys get tired of *****-slapping each other you ought to go check-out bnewell's gallery
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:42 PM
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Hey, you think that maybe in between all this we can get a big block/small block debate going???

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We all make mistakes in life...many o' us don't admit them tho' (me included at times)...its so much easier ta make up an excuse ta all & sundry...than it is ta admit you've actually made a mistake.

Thankyou fer ya honesty rsimoes...ya had an ordinary experience...admitedly made some blunders...sat down & worked out what was best fer you...& moved on...it takes guts ta admit that ta a small group o' friends...let alone a large group like this site is...good fer you.

...Wish you & family all the best in ya new vehicle o' choice.

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I have to admit this forum is a little more "colorfull/redneck" than the Miata forum!!!! Just to keep it going, I still agree with Rob, the man spent a boat load of money and nobody he dealt with lived up to what they said they would do!!!! Even with the Kirkham he had numerous leaks and reworks on 117K car.
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...and therein might be the problem. It's pretty damn tough to spend $117k on a completed Kirkham unless you try real freeking hard.

Not saying it can't be done...just takes some imagination me thinks.
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BTW, I have owned my Cobra 5 1/2 years, and have put over 46,000 miles on it, and the only reason I would sell it would be to buy another Cobra.
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I must say that I went to Carlisle and LCS a couple times and some other shows where many of the venders had cars on sale. Talking to them, none suggested that you could ever have a problem with any of thier cars.

Fact is SPF made a big deal out of how perfect their paint job is and how you couldn't touch building a Kit that nice on your own for half again the money. Once they even claimed to me that $10,000 would not buy you a paint job as good as theirs. So Rsimoes was being picky and whinny when his paint wasn't right? I think his point was that things can go wrong even when dealing with some of the best. He acknowledged that they tried to make it right, but it took a lot of time.

Remember the thread where the guy was terminal and wanted to recieve his Shelby and that they were screwing him over badly? Was he an idiot as well?

Yea I see mistakes too, but I don't think the man is public enemy number one either.

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I must say that I went to Carlisle and LCS a couple times and some other shows where many of the venders had cars on sale. Talking to them, none suggested that you could ever have a problem with any of thier cars.

Fact is SPF made a big deal out of how perfect their paint job is and how you couldn't touch building a Kit that nice on your own for half again the money. Once they even claimed to me that $10,000 would not buy you a paint job as good as theirs. So Rsimoes was being picky and whinny when his paint wasn't right? I think his point was that things can go wrong even when dealing with some of the best. He acknowledged that they tried to make it right, but it took a lot of time.

Remember the thread where the guy was terminal and wanted to recieve his Shelby and that they were screwing him over badly? Was he an idiot as well?

Yea I see mistakes too, but I don't think the man is public enemy number one either.
I agree, it's unfortunate that Rsimoes had such a bad cobra experience. I wouldn't put all the blame on his shoulders, but better planning definitely could have helped his cause! I too would have been upset about major flaws in paint as he had with his SPF. I think this post teaches alot of people what NOT to do! He seemingly jumped into 3 different cobra projects head first without knowing how deep the water was so to speak. That was the flaw in his planning. Good thing for him is that he is not like some people who sink large amounts of money they really can't afford to do and then end up not liking the experience. Rob might have been out some money, but in the end he paid the "tuition" for a very serious lesson learned and got his Vette. I too was on the fence about buying a new vette or buying a cobra. Why didn't I choose the vette? I thought it was TOO refined for me! Go figure right!? I'm more into the loud, smelly, no heat or air kind of machine, much like my fox bodies.

Rob, you learned a very hard, expensive lesson, hopefully potential buyers will learn from your mistakes! I have no doubt that the intentions of your post were not so much to whine about your misfortune, but to warn others that the cobra is not all that it appears to be from 10ft away! It's very crude and rough! Hindsight is 20/20! Again, enjoy your new vette! I'm sure it suits you better.
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...major flaws in paint as he had with his SPF...
Actually there have been a lot of posts through the years reference paint problems with an SPF... But I must say, never heard of a problem with paint on the CHASSIS. Maybe folks aren't looking close enough, or maybe to close?

If the paint problem on the SPF chassis (swirl marks) is an indicator of the kind of trouble also found with Kirkham and KC, I'm left thinking these are fairly trivial 'problems'.

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Actually there have been a lot of posts through the years reference paint problems with an SPF... But I must say, never heard of a problem with paint on the CHASSIS. Maybe folks aren't looking close enough, or maybe to close?

If the paint problem on the SPF chassis (swirl marks) is an indicator of the kind of trouble also found with Kirkham and KC, I'm left thinking these are fairly trivial 'problems'.
I was under the impression that the "swirl marks and chips" were in the body of the car and he just mistyped as "chassis." If they were indeed in the chassis, I would agree with you!
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All I can say is that this has been an interesting read. Any newbies who
read this and don't do the necessary research to suit their needs - good
luck to you - you have been warned - from all sides of the fence.
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what a sad man, did you have to get your wifes OK to have a crap as well.
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I was under the impression that the "swirl marks and chips" were in the body of the car and he just mistyped as "chassis." If they were indeed in the chassis, I would agree with you!
I have watched Rob's posts prior to this and even seen the car "with major paint defects", before it left the dealer. My opinion, mine, is that he is totally ignorant of anything that is not mass produced. The "major paint flaw" was easily wiped off, so it couldn't have been too major.
From the begininngs, if you are aware of the threads that he has created, it appears that he has always tried to buld a car that he could make a profit from. Much like a stock investment. The biggest flaw in his tale from my perspective is that he ASKED the forum WHAT they thought at every choice, so when he was done he had a car HE thought everyone else would want...they didn't. He also did none of the work and paid plenty for what he had done. Both of those add up to a car that the owner isn't happy with and that no one wants to pay his price for. It is a VERY common issue when the disposable income is larger than the knowledge of the subject that you are spending it on.
When it was suggested by several members, maybe a year ago that a Cobra wasn't for him...maybe a ZO6 was more his cup of tea, he became defensive spouting out that he was no kid an was more than aware of what he was getting. We can all see he didn't.
I have NO ill will toward, Rob what so ever, but do NOT take his comments with any serious consideration. It's just too bad that he didn't get that ZO6 last year when it was suggested to him......he wouldn't be out all that dough and we wouldn't have had to hear his whining. The positive note is that he won't be asking all those stupid a$$ questions every 2 days.
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Woodz428,
I was refering to the "chip" in the first SPF that was later replaced with a 2nd that had "swirl marks." Swirl marks.. ya whatever, I can fix those. But a chip is a bit different, I could still repair it, but that's beside the point. If I dropped my car off at a painter and was informed of it's completion, and upon inspection, it had a chip in the paint.. I would want it repaired before I took posession. After i take posession, then it's my problem.

I agree with the rest of your post though!
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