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Old 07-14-2010, 07:52 PM
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Am still struggling to get on with my rebuild, mainly through a lack of time, but am getting some success including re-routing of my wiring to particularly hide it in the engine bay area.

Have had some good results so far, particularly with my loom to the motor now coming in through the tunnel and up behind the engine to hide this loom.

Have been also working on the ancillaries loom for the rest of the engine bay, lights, horns etc. and it is the routing of this bundle of wires that is giving me some decision grief.

This loom comes out of the firewall above the driver's footbox and close to the outside body skin. I've mounted loom attachment hangers to the underside of the body that now lead to a grommet I've fitted through the rear wall of the front wheel arch to pass the loom into the arch area above the front driver's wheel.

So it is from here that I have issues.

The engine bay up front here is seriously uncluttered and even with the radiator in place I don't seem to have too many hiding places to run the loom totally hidden. Upper chassis frames have some gap to any nearby bodywork too.

What suggestions can anyone fire at me to be able to traverse the loom to the passenger side?

I spent a good hour last night playing with some flex to see how I might make this traverse and at the moment the best I would get is having two small sections of loom visible transferring between each wheel guard side panel.

For those somewhat familiar with the GForce / RMC radiator set up, this has now been replaced with a Kennmer style radiator mount, so very upright and surrounded atop by a fixed frame and below by the removable component.

I will take some pictures tonight to help provide some visual description to all this.

However any thoughts in advance would be appreciated.

It can only help me speed up the rebuild!

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Old 07-14-2010, 08:05 PM
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Slowy, I'm also grappling with the last bits of my wiring. Fortunately I have plenty of areas to run conduit. But how about in your case, get some steel/alum section and attach it to the underside of the frame and run the wires through - like a conduit - then paint it to match the frame? Without seeing photos I'm not sure how effectively it will blend in. Surely it will look better than a stack of ribbed conduit and cable ties all over the place.

By the way, that Kenmer radiator mount has just doubled your crash protection rating, you realise that! Solid work.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:26 PM
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Thanks Paul might start by looking at this option. Given I painted the chassis in POR15 it does make for an easy addition if it is do-able.

Will post up some pictures to help with the description and hopefully responses.

And given its over two years since bang, I'm in no rush for further off road excursions.

Have to admit the newer radiator system wasn't as easy a fit as I was hoping. It looked like the radiator was just going to be capable of being lifted into place but instead it has to be backed into place somewhat as normal as the GF fittment.

Still the supporting structure is far more superior and I've got an alloy jobbie out of this effort too.

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Old 07-14-2010, 09:34 PM
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Just had mine all re-routed Stephen to do what you are talking about. The engine harness comes thru the passenger side upper footwell and to the area behind the motor and under the start of the tunnel (as you have done). As much as possible of the harness is now inside the firewall. The lighting and ancillaries are in the engine bay and clipped under the edges of the body moulding around the sides of the bonnet (if that makes sense). Others have gone thru chassis rails. Anyway post some pics and we can see where you are at.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:59 PM
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Thanks Merv

Just had a quick look at your gallery and can see that large grommet and harness out of the footwell, looks neat fro where it is located. Mine actually exits in the tunnel and will run forward to the main plug and beyond but same idea generally.

Had looked at the bonnet opening surround as there is some form of natural (inverted) depression but it does shallow out in a few spots on my body. So despite planning to replace the pinchseal rubbers, I am not sure there is enough depth there for attachment hangers and loom to all be effectively hidden.

Would be ideal though as the two inside edges of each wheel arch would allow a loom to neatly traverse in to this area I think. May have to dig out the old pinchseal and test how well it does help hide this stuff.

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Old 07-14-2010, 10:29 PM
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Slowy, without pictures it did not happen
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:39 PM
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Dave

On this occasion the reverse is true, but by a quirk of fate you are in fact still correct!

Don't need pictures as it hasn't happened.

But I do need pictures to help make it happen!! Or so it might appear.

Make sense - No. I'll take a picture to explain more then.

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Old 07-14-2010, 10:55 PM
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I thought you had already done a heap of work and modifications?
You mentioned radiators and wireing done?
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:26 AM
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I can't help answer your question about wire routing, but I may be able to provide a little inspiration with the following photo. It's a hotrod I saw a few years ago. At first glance I thought the owner had put one of those mock up plastic engines in place until he could finish the car. On closer examination, I discovered it was a finished and fully functional car. Everything that could be hidden out of sight (e.g., radiator, water pump, coolant lines, fuel pump and lines, oil filter, ignition lines and components, fuel tank and filler, etc.) appeared to be missing. I've seen engine bays that looked clean because they had all sorts of covers on them, but this was the cleanest one I've seen that was out in the open.

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Old 07-15-2010, 04:43 AM
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View of radiator attachments



View chassis cross memeber



View of nose & radiator from front



Pics aren't ideal but give some idea of gaps I am trying to work with.

Just refitted the old pinchweld seals to the bonnet lip but realised if I add in the stick on mounts that I have (and these are quite small anyway) the loom will be very marginally hidden behind the seal.

I'm not keen on this if I can't get a good result.

Had also considered drilling into the ends of the cross members to run through the steel work. Don't know if I'd have to drill through two walls on each side though and it brings the loom close to the working suspension which may not be an ideal situation.

Keen for more feedback please on any options to get my loom accross the engine bay.

I'd prefer to not do this by splitting the loom and running a parallel line down the passenger's side too.

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I looked at mine yesterday ( repairing the radiator ) and the wiring
goes under the crossmember at the front. Looks OK but you see it when it comes around the upright member.


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Old 07-19-2010, 06:59 AM
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Hey Slowy
Where did you get your radiator from? I need to get a new radiator for mine.
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:02 PM
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Dave

Marty of Kenmer sourced it as part of the insurance and though I recall some branding I don't recall the name, so I'll let you know tonight when I get home and can have a look.

Thanks to all for the general comments, I am currently running my wiring to the other side of the engine bay behind the lip on the scuttle at the top of the bay. I'm going to seperate the earthing too and run earth lines to chassis mounting bolts. This way there are only the four active wires traversing the engine bay for the LH items.

Out of curiousity where have you guys tended to hang your horns in the engine bay too?

I got some FIAM electric horns originally but having swapped the crappy horn in my current XR8 for one of the Stebel compact horns it is very loud and does get the attention. Am contemplating the same for the cobra but it is only a single and I wonder if the twin horns with alternate frequencies might be a tad better again.

Anyway would like to mount whatever I get nicely into the bay so suggestions would again be appreciated.

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Old 07-20-2010, 05:47 AM
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PM sent on radiator details.

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I've run all my wires through the chassis....it pokes out where it's required.
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